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Old Oct 22, 2023 | 11:43 AM
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ESP Plan for Florida

Who has the best ESP plan for Florida?

Im approaching the 36k mile mark and need to make a purchase in the near future.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2023 | 12:11 PM
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Pretty sure you are stuck paying full list price on the plan, unless you can use a mailing address in another state. So I guess it comes down to which dealers can sell to Florida residents, and will wothout additional mark up. I know Lombard Ford is licensed to sell to Florida residents.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2023 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
Pretty sure you are stuck paying full list price on the plan, unless you can use a mailing address in another state. So I guess it comes down to which dealers can sell to Florida residents, and will wothout additional mark up. I know Lombard Ford is licensed to sell to Florida residents.
So are you saying that if one buys a Ford service plan that it can't come from any dealer in the country authorized by Ford to sell them if you live in certain states? That would be something I hadn't heard before.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2023 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Poncho450
So are you saying that if one buys a Ford service plan that it can't come from any dealer in the country authorized by Ford to sell them if you live in certain states? That would be something I hadn't heard before.
Speaking specifically of Florida. It's nothing new in regards to Florida residents. Some of the online ESP dealers have it detailed in their FAQ section. Florida requires them to have some kind of licensure to sell to Florida residents. Not all have that. Zeigler and Lombard are licensed to sell to Florida residents, I don't think Flood or Granger are.

What is new, In just the past year they now will no longer sell to California residents, claiming that California does not allow online sales of service contracts (AKA extended warranties).
 
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Old Oct 22, 2023 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
What is new, In just the past year they now will no longer sell to California residents, claiming that California does not allow online sales of service contracts (AKA extended warranties).
Was there a legislation that precipitated this? Ziegler doesn't list California as one of the states with additional restrictions yet, even though it lists FL and TX license numbers so it can sell to residents of those states.

https://www.zeiglerfordesp.com/warra.../?plan_id=2053
 
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Old Oct 22, 2023 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by twobelugas
Was there a legislation that precipitated this? Ziegler doesn't list California as one of the states with additional restrictions yet, even though it lists FL and TX license numbers so it can sell to residents of those states.

https://www.zeiglerfordesp.com/warra.../?plan_id=2053
I haven't figured out what new legislation triggered it. There was another thread, maybe in the Granger thread, where Granger provided some link that was supposed to answer the why, but it did not. At least not the way I comprehend it.

It almost seems like new interpretation of existing wording may have caused the change.

Flood has this statement-"We are sorry but due to California law, California Residents are not eligible for out of state service contracts.Please contact your local dealer."

Lombard- "California regulations state that California residents cannot purchase online. Ford owners from California can only purchase a vehicle service contract from a California licensed car dealer.

Ford will not allow us to register coverage to anyone that uses a California address."
 
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Old Oct 22, 2023 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
I haven't figured out what new legislation triggered it. There was another thread, maybe in the Granger thread, where Granger provided some link that was supposed to answer the why, but it did not. At least not the way I comprehend it.

It almost seems like new interpretation of existing wording may have caused the change.

Flood has this statement-"We are sorry but due to California law, California Residents are not eligible for out of state service contracts.Please contact your local dealer."

Lombard- "California regulations state that California residents cannot purchase online. Ford owners from California can only purchase a vehicle service contract from a California licensed car dealer.

Ford will not allow us to register coverage to anyone that uses a California address."
Thanks. I am in the process of looking into getting an ESP for my new car of another brand from a dealer in Kansas, we will see what they say.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2023 | 09:33 PM
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The Florida Legislature protects you mandating that all extended warranties be sold to everyone at the same price - no negotiation possible. Dealers stepped up and insisted the “one price” be MSRP. Florida residents can buy from Flood, but same price as from a Florida dealer I.e., much higher than Flood prices the same policy for residents of any other state. Back in the day you could save the 7% Florida state sales tax Florida dealers tack on, but not sure that is still the case.
 
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Originally Posted by JohnD333
The Florida Legislature protects you mandating that all extended warranties be sold to everyone at the same price - no negotiation possible. Dealers stepped up and insisted the “one price” be MSRP. Florida residents can buy from Flood, but same price as from a Florida dealer I.e., much higher than Flood prices the same policy for residents of any other state. Back in the day you could save the 7% Florida state sales tax Florida dealers tack on, but not sure that is still the case.
Dealers must be licensed to sell to Florida residents, many are not. Flood appears to be one of them that is not licensed to sell to Florida residents. Just like their statement to California residents, here is their statement to Florida residents. "We are sorry but due to Florida law, Florida Residents are not eligible for out of state service contracts. Please contact your local dealer"
 
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Old Oct 24, 2023 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
Speaking specifically of Florida. It's nothing new in regards to Florida residents. Some of the online ESP dealers have it detailed in their FAQ section. Florida requires them to have some kind of licensure to sell to Florida residents. Not all have that. Zeigler and Lombard are licensed to sell to Florida residents, I don't think Flood or Granger are.

What is new, In just the past year they now will no longer sell to California residents, claiming that California does not allow online sales of service contracts (AKA extended warranties).
Thanks for the clarification. Although I've spent a lot of vacations in Florida this is something I'd never heard of.
I assume it wouldn't affect service work. Say I had a plan purchased at Flood and needed to use it at a Florida dealer while I was on vacation.
I'm a NY resident. Maybe I should look into this, as this sounds like something the communists in Albany would legislate.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2023 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
Dealers must be licensed to sell to Florida residents, many are not. Flood appears to be one of them that is not licensed to sell to Florida residents. Just like their statement to California residents, here is their statement to Florida residents. "We are sorry but due to Florida law, Florida Residents are not eligible for out of state service contracts. Please contact your local dealer"
I like to buy my ESP's at the last minute, just in case I get a lemon, but maybe should start looking earlier, as Jersey loves these stupid kind of laws and
Jersey car dealers would LOVE to hear it. Surprised "they" have not taken things like this to the next level. Why allow anything to be bought, if it does not have the
exact same price, everywhere (it's only fair ), but pretty sure that's called "price fixing".

"Price fixing is an agreement (written, verbal, or inferred from conduct) among competitors to raise, lower, maintain, or stabilize prices or price levels."

https://www.ftc.gov/advice-guidance/...s/price-fixing

Aren't all Fl Ford dealers "competitors" to each other?


 
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