Anyone have info on back ordered 5.0 motors? My 2018 coyote blew up (victim of the oil consumption issue). I have been waiting 5 months.

 

I read not too long ago that it is in the 6-8 month range.

 

Could be a lot longer if they go on strike.

 

Based on asking for a 45% pay increase, there will be a strike. And everyone knows that even if the manufacturers cave, that cost will be passed on to the consumer. Just like every tax, fee and fine gets passed on, in the form of even higher MSRPs.

 

At the rate prices are going up it won't be long before nobody owns a car/truck. They will all be leased because the average Joe/Jane won't be able to afford one.

 

That’s the point I believe. Then you will need a good social credit score, and be able to actually justify your choice of vehicle. No more trucks for those without a documented need. No more large sedans or SUVs unless you can show a need. The communists are hard at work trying to make that dream come true.

 

Counter to that point is that they've been making a tidy profit for a while now, and they certainly have not been shy about handing out 7-figure bonuses to the higher ups. I think we're experiencing a moment in the power of unions.

 

Looks like they just went on strike.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/articles...ssembly-plant/

 

It's a catch 22. The EV side of the business are now separate divisions that are bleeding cash at unsustainable rates. That part isn't being reported. C level pay is out of control in all parts of the economy. They all worship hi profile billionaires and all feel that they should be compensated the same. Blame the corporate boards for voting that way. Same thing is true in pro sports, insane money for star athletes. C level employees are viewed as the super starts of their worlds. They all have private jets, bullet proof cars and armed security details. The only thing that will get the executives to cave is if it has an effect on their lifestyle.

In the end, those of us who buy vehicles will pay the price in the way of higher new vehicle MSRPs and higher used values. The unions aren't "sticking it to the man", making the CEO dig into his deep pockets or chest of gold. When a new XLT f150 is $80k, the only people left buying trucks will be those who need them for work, even then the price the contractor charges you will go up accordingly to pay for the higher priced trucks they need.

It's a slippery slope. UAW workers, especially line workers, aren't highly skilled. They put the same part on vehicle after vehicle. There should be pathways to earning more or promoting. But being the lug nut guy for 20 years shouldn't earn a solid middle class income with a generous pension.

Specifically speaking about Ford trucks, the prices have skyrocketed while at the same time quality has hit all time lows and warranty claims are at all time highs. yes, the workers will need some type of pay increase, and in return there need to be an improvement in the quality of output. This isn't just an auto manufacturer issue right now. I see it everywhere. Attitude reflects leadership, and it seems that quality leadership is something that's lacking all across our society these days. Everywhere you go from Walmart to the dealer service dept, to the local restaurant has staff that seem to not give a damn about anything, and no one is holding them to a higher standard.

Vehicle manufacturing is the last major part of US GDP. US manufactures can't seem to produce world class vehicles that can be exported to and sold in other parts of the world. Very few US made cars are desirable overseas. On the other hand, we allow massive amounts of imports to come into our country, and the profits to be shipped overseas. I'm all for a free market, but it needs to go both ways. If the US auto industry goes south, it bodes poorly for all of us. How many of you would want to buy a Chinese built F150?

 

Many of the "imports" sold here are manufactured here and they aren't going on strike. If nothing else this will drive market share towards the imports. Ford announced that they lost $4.5 billion on EVs. With a decreased market share they will be hurting even more.

 

To the OP.
Likely you lost the engine from not checking the oil often enough regardless of the engine >>issue.
The engine issue was the result of poor quality control at the block preparation level before even being built, the first time.
This was left go for years as the Co. issued foolish dealer directives that could never 'fix' the issue at the block bore level.
Any changes in CEO and lower management totally failed to address this well as many quality issues across all the lines that persist to this day.
Add the Covid 19 lockdown for most of a year, the foolish gov handling and you/we get what we get.
Now add to it the EV push.
The fast food industry, the restaurants and most other business can't get enough employees to even open the door or limits open hours.
Parts supply is pinched for everyone.
The early 5L gen 1 and 2 engines can't even get replacement intake manifolds due to broken control IMRC issues.
And now the Gen 4 5L are in the line up to being built and do not interchange.
You wonder why you can't get an engine, a Trans or Cat replacements and other parts besides dealer tech competency is low and short staffed.
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Back to the OP issue.
Your oil usage issue could have been handled and cleared if the root cause was known and addressed.
It turned out to be quite simple if the cause was admitted too but that is not what happened.
How do I know this?
The Bore in these 18 and later 5 L engine are Plasma Sprayin not sleeves. These blocks are not rebuildable in the usual way of the past.
This is what resulted as a major warrantee issue.
The engines that do pass oil, hold too much oil on the cylinder walls from excessive Liner Porosity, a quality control issue never paid attention to.
Now you see why a dealer could never effect a fix with the directive from the Co.
Cylinder honing is usually a two step process to get that oil control and provide the Ring Pak a surface to slide on and seal against without excess wear rates. A break-in was not even possible.
Bottom line was to much oil for the Ring Pak to handle. Note, there are oil spray nozzles in all the 5 L engines pointed at Piston Crowns to further complicate the oil issue in an attempt to cool the piston tops.
Was there s fix for this without engine replacement?
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On technical research into the whole issue, I decided to try a certain oil additive that may result in filling in the excess liner Porosity described above and turned out to be a success for my 5 L engine.
Began the treatment at about 40k miles and by 50k It was under control to now a 79k no oil usage between 5k changes.
I did not know this engine passed oil purchased as a CPO from a dealer at 28k miles.
Of course the CO. would never do this or admit it., so you have what you have.
Good luck.

 

Interesting info Bluegrass, what was the additive you had success with?

 

M0S2 Moly.
It fills in the excess bore porosity and is also a very slick lubricant with special attributes for an additive that is actually a Metal in powder form.
Once tried, some time to allow it to work is needed.
Also good for the rest of the engine.
I hardly have any engine noise but the normal looseness of this engine design that is 7k rpm capable.
It was awful at 28k when I got the truck but now very low.
Only fill to 7 qts with 5w20 Blend and one can Moly each time plus a qt of Viscosity improver and have some patience.
Don't yet know what the outcome would be without the Moly but at $10 a can is cheap to get out of oil passage and have first class power.
Fuel milage is also very good when not driven aggressively on E10/87 fuel.
Good luck.

 

Thanks for the info! My father in law just bought an '18 5.0 and reading all this made mea bit worried for him. I will definitely pass along this great info.