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Old Sep 10, 2023 | 02:21 PM
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Transmission Flush Question.

I have heard mixed answers on this method where they flush the fluid to get as much out as possible and filter change. Anyone know what the engineering department says? Sure, I'm selling it and it will be the best thing in the world for you, your family and children and their children but have transmission engineers really weighed in on it? TIA
 
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Old Sep 10, 2023 | 07:11 PM
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Maybe Mark Kovalsky will chime in on this topic. I recall he wasn't a fan of these. Simply drain the fluid and replace the filter should be good enough. If you want to flush, just simply add another drive cycle to get the transmission hot and circulate the oil and drain and refill.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2023 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FishOnOne
Maybe Mark Kovalsky will chime in on this topic. I recall he wasn't a fan of these.
Your recall is poor. I wrote a procedure published on this site about how to flush an automatic transmission. It was written before thermostats became standard, so it will not work on this transmission. Someone came up with a method on how to flush a thermostatic controlled trans here: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-exchange.html It may take some modification to work with this trans, but it is an excellent method to change the fluid.

What I am not a fan of is using flush chemicals in the transmission.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2023 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
Your recall is poor. I wrote a procedure published on this site about how to flush an automatic transmission. It was written before thermostats became standard, so it will not work on this transmission. Someone came up with a method on how to flush a thermostatic controlled trans here: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-exchange.html It may take some modification to work with this trans, but it is an excellent method to change the fluid.

What I am not a fan of is using flush chemicals in the transmission.
Would you be OK with a machine at a shop? If so, what kind should we look for or avoid? TIA
 
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Old Sep 10, 2023 | 09:14 PM
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The machines are fine. They use the transmission pump for power, so there is no issue using one of them.

The only thing to watch for is that they need to heat the fluid to keep the thermostat open. If not, it will just add and remove the new fluid.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2023 | 09:38 PM
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I wonder how the thermostat works in the 10R140? I was under the assumption that the heat exchanger between the coolant and transmission provided heat when the transmission was cold and removed heat when the transmission was too hot (thermostat not required). Does the 10R140 only use the coolant heat exchanger when the trans fluid is too hot (thermostat required)?
 
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 07:59 AM
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Trans flush

I've heard great things about BG transmission flushes. Are they recommended? Obviously you wouldn't flush a transmission with black fluid.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveZX
I've heard great things about BG transmission flushes. Are they recommended?

Obviously you wouldn't flush a transmission with black fluid.
As long as we don't use chemicals, does it matter? Is BG more than a machine at this point? What great things, BTW?

Wouldn't you have more problems than the flush if the fluid were black?
 
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 10:52 AM
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I see that you have a '17. I just did my '19 last week. The filter in mine had never been touched at 82,000 miles so I pulled the pan to replace the filter. Filter was covered in sludge, magnet was also. So it needed a new one. I cleaned the magnet as well. I reinstalled the Dorman direct fit pan that has the drain plug in it. Now in the future I will simply do drain and fill every 30,000 miles. $100 for fluid every 30k is nothing. Should make the trans live a very very long life.

In my opinion this is a better way to do it rather than just "flushing" and leaving in the old filter.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by WXboy
I see that you have a '17. I just did my '19 last week. The filter in mine had never been touched at 82,000 miles so I pulled the pan to replace the filter. Filter was covered in sludge, magnet was also. So it needed a new one. I cleaned the magnet as well. I reinstalled the Dorman direct fit pan that has the drain plug in it. Now in the future I will simply do drain and fill every 30,000 miles. $100 for fluid every 30k is nothing. Should make the trans live a very very long life.

In my opinion this is a better way to do it rather than just "flushing" and leaving in the old filter.
I would guess most of the sediment is at the bottom of the pan and in the filter. I would want to drop the pan to see how much debris is in it and clean it up. After that, flush to get as much of the old fluid as possible.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 05:05 PM
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It's not from Ford but Nissan issued a bulletin to never use a power flush machine on their transmissions (at least for the Titan). They may have referenced the BG machine in particular, but it's been at least 10 years since I read the bulletin.

Letting the transmission pump out the fluid is the way to go. Or, do a spill-n-fill of what's in the pan.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 08:34 PM
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Letting the transmission pump out the fluid is the way to go. Or, do a spill-n-fill of what's in the pan.

Thats what I did on my last GM at 50k. Just don’t let that pump run dry. I switched over to Amsoil at the same time. I don’t know about running Amsoil in these new 10 speeds though.
 
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Originally Posted by HRTKD
It's not from Ford but Nissan issued a bulletin to never use a power flush machine on their transmissions (at least for the Titan). They may have referenced the BG machine in particular, but it's been at least 10 years since I read the bulletin.

Letting the transmission pump out the fluid is the way to go. Or, do a spill-n-fill of what's in the pan.
IDK if that is old news or what but THIS talks about a "fluid exchange" which is what I think a flush is. I'm guessing that you and I can say any nonsense we want but if it is a dealer, I would imagine they have to make sure that it has Nissan's blessing.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by aklim
IDK if that is old news or what but THIS talks about a "fluid exchange" which is what I think a flush is. I'm guessing that you and I can say any nonsense we want but if it is a dealer, I would imagine they have to make sure that it has Nissan's blessing.
As I recall Nissan's bulletin made a distinct difference between and fluid exchange (recommended) and a flush (not recommended). I did my own fluid exchange on my Titan. I'll never do that again. It looked like someone had been murdered on my garage floor and bled out every drop of blood in their body. I wasn't very good at it. LOL!
 
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by HRTKD
It looked like someone had been murdered on my garage floor and bled out every drop of blood in their body. I wasn't very good at it. LOL!
Perfect cover. "Oh, that's transmission fluid, not blood.". Sure it is, buddy.
 
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