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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 09:31 AM
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quick question about front cab mount components

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just looking at the Midfifty image here where it shows all the bits needed to connect the front cab corner correctly, and I am wondering whether you really need that big metal plate that I circled in red. The reason is; if you use that plate, then the rubber grommet thing does not sit nice and snug like it does if you don't use it. What stops the rubber from flopping around like a half dead fish under your cabin? I would want a firm fitting like you get if you take that round plate out of the equation. Has anybody put all these bits in like in the diagram or have they left that big plate out altogether? Maybe that big plate stops the rubber from wearing out? The thing is; if you use the plate, it doesn't sit snug against the first plate. That is, metal to metal. It just doesn't seem right. Any ideas gents?
 
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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 10:28 AM
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If you look very closely at that picture that cup and the one above are the same. And it is supposed to be welded. You can even see the 4 spot welds in your picture. When it is welded there is no metal to metal movement.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 10:32 AM
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Yes, what Dave said. Your circled cup is welded to the bottom of the cab, as shown, and the rubber fits snug into it. Placement is critical if you want your sheet metal to line up later, upon assembly.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 02:51 PM
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Tthat is correct and fits well, rather i am concerned about the metal on metal situation of the lower sheet on the wing.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 03:51 PM
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Seriously something ain't right surely?
 
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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 04:12 PM
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You're right. That looks wrong. Do you have a link to your instruction page? I don't see it on the Mid Fifty site. What I do find when I look for cab mounts is their front mount kit, and it doesn't show that second metal cup. https://midfifty.com/item.php?INV_ID...it-with-plates

 
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Old Sep 10, 2023 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluey Zedoff

Seriously something ain't right surely?
On page 112 of the 2017 book which is your first picture, It list the upper cap and Plate and then, the next item is the upper cap. I think you purchased the upper cap and plate and the upper cap separately as well. Which is why it don't fit so well. The good news is that you figured it out before installing the assembly.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2023 | 12:19 PM
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it looks to me like the cab mount wing already has the cup installed and you have a extra, no idea why they do not match better
 
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Yes, to what everyone else said. "A" and "B" are shaped differently, but they are the same part. Because you have "A", you don't need "B".


 
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 06:11 PM
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I looked at my receipts and Idid not buy front cab rubbers from Mid 50 just to clarify in Arizona. I bought them from a classic ford shop in Ohio. And that plate you illustrated did not come with the set. Also got the rear motor mounts,but I haven't installed them yet. My front cab mounts we're hard as a rock

may be that extra plate plate is for a rusted out upper plate. My plates were rusty, but I was able to brass brush them clean that rust and applied rustoleum. I used a Long 6 by 6 and hydraulic jack to raise the cab tough with the front end just enough room to get the new rubbers installed placing that extra plate would have been pretty impossible. Just enough room to install the rubbers bumpers. AJ
 

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Your question may already have been answered but this may be worth mentioning anyway. There was a change in the diameter of that top mount. 1953-55 had a much larger diameter than 1956. I seem to remember hearing that you could still buy the old style cap but you couldn't buy the rubber to fit. Or you could and it was too hard. So the other option was to change the setup to the 1956 design which is what I bought. Something along those lines anyway. If I'm wrong on any details hopefully someone can correct me.

Edit to say the part in your photo I found to be an extremely poor fit and was not worth correcting because it was made out of very light gauge steel - 18g. The original was difficult to judge because it was badly corroded but I reckon it was more like 12 or 13g. So I am making my own.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2023 | 08:29 AM
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Well thank.you for your reply yes your right I've owned both years 54,55 ND a,56 only changed rubbers on the 54 and 55. My 56 I may have changed them but really never noticed the difference between the years. I know in 56 alot of changes were made. Especially the cab. So I beleave in what your saying.AJ
 
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Old Sep 24, 2023 | 06:36 AM
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I think you are on to it. That makes a lot of sense. Very confusing catalog listing in the first instance. I think the catalog picture was taken some time ago and has since been updated. I would say the previous owner of the truck bought the whole kit not realising he didn't need that extra plate. Good news is, I don't need it.
Thanks for all these great replies, guys!
 
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Old Sep 30, 2023 | 08:48 AM
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I hope this image posts correctly. It shows the correct assembly order. The picture at the top of this thread shows the smaller rubber below the frame wing which I believe is incorrect. The original question has already been answered but I thought this would be relevant.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2023 | 05:27 PM
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The wing is sandwiched between the small and large donuts. The small donut has a shoulder that sticks up through the wing to keep it centered and keep the bolt buffered from metal (bolt) to metal (wing) contact.
 
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