And why does Ford require the sport package when all you want is the XLT Premium package???/ UGH

 

Probably one of the best gas engines in a real truck today (real as in class 2B or class 3-4) If I didn't want a truck that can turn inside itself like the F-450, I would have looked into a 7.3 DRW. It wont walk up a mountain with ease like the Diesel when towing a 5th wheel, but I rarely climb mountains as it is. Only reason I have the Diesel is it is the only engine that comes in the F-450.

 

Haha, that is exactly why I purchased new, used really makes no sense. The issue you'll run into with your 150 is you'll run out of payload before hitting the max towing capacity more than likely, however your payload is pretty high for an F150. Why not find a camper you like, see how your truck does and go from there? You are planning on buying both so just do them in that order instead of truck first then camper. Drive the camper home or where ever then decide if you need to upgrade to SD truck.

How often will you be towing?
Does MPG matter to you much? Do you need to park in small spaces or have a small garage door? My lifetime avg after about 6k miles on my 7.3 is right around 10 MPG, that's probably 60-70% towing our camper and the rest is mainly in town driving. On the highway I probably hit mid teens but anything stop and go get ready for single digits MPG. The turning radius sucks on these and it's not gonna be fun to parallel park or get into tight parking spots.
If we didn't upgrade to a 38 ft 8k wet camper I'd likely still be in my F150 pulling my 28 ft 6k wet Jayco. It pulled that camper like a dream, but I'm also comparing that truck to an 04 F150 with the gutless, yet reliable 4.6.

 

A 7.3L or a 6.8L gas engine will easily tow your trailer, and more. The reliability debate can be spirited. You'll get passionate responses from both sides.

A gas engine has a lower initial cost. Fuel mileage isn't as good. Fuel is generally cheaper. Repairs tend to be less expensive. Oil changes are more frequent but less expensive.

A Power Stroke is more expensive. Fuel mileage tends to be roughly 30% better in most situations that I have observed. Fuel is generally more expensive. Repairs tend to be more expensive. Oil changes are more expensive (13 quarts) but you don't need to change your oil every 3,000-5,000 miles.

 

Actually it is 15 quarts.

 

When did Ford up the oil amount, 2023? all the 6.7 I had were 13 quarts.

 

My 2019 is 13.

 

Yes, 2023. Along with that, they also claim an OCI up to 15k miles instead of 10k. (Not necessarily only because of the extra 2 qourts)

 

 

Why 2017 650/750?

 

I have no idea. I searched for 2023!
but I did know it changed in 2023.

 

Money grab. Same reason you can't get the 7.3 in a XL unless you add the $5k STX package. Ford is learning how to squeeze the most money out of someone who just wants a couple features....now they are sucked into $7,000 packages to get those couple features

 

It was 13q 11-22. They increased the pan capacity 2023 to now use 15q.

There was a mistake back in 2017MY owners manual calling for 15q. Ford sent out some kind of supplemental page to correct that to 13q.

 

Stay away from the diesel if you want reliability.

Buy my 2018 with 39k miles on it for under $40k

 

Your F150 may well be able to tow it (though the Super Duty would certainly do a much better job), but the loaded tongue weight will undoubtedly be far more than 490lbs; figure on 12 - 15% of GVWR. My 21RBS (24'10" OAL) had a GVWR of 8,150 and a measured TW of 1,180 lbs.

Dave