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Old Aug 28, 2023 | 03:43 PM
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VIN and Fuel Pump

I have what I think is a 1969 F600 dump truck. Fuel pump blew - assume its the diaphragm. Could someone please recommend the highest quality one that I can still get for this? Also, would love to know what I really own. VIN is F61DCE51583. Thank you. Jack
 
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Old Aug 28, 2023 | 04:06 PM
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Welcome to FTE!

I moved you here to Large Truck.

F61 = F600 gas, 4x2

D = 330 2V HD FT gas V8

C = Ontario Truck Plant

E51583 = 1969 numerical series, December 1968 production

156 = 156 inch wheelbase

G = Chrome Yellow (Silver Smoke Gray Metallic shows "Canada Only" & Ivy Green Metallic (Light or Medium) shows for MY '70 under that code)

F617 = F600 gas, 4x2, 20,200 lbs GVWR

4B81
4B = Black leather grained vinyl
81 = Standard cab

A = New Process model 435 four speed transmission

F2B
F2 = Eaton model 15201 two speed rear axle, 15,000 lbs capacity, 5.83 / 8.12 ratios
B = Ford 5,500 lb capacity front axle

20000 = 20,000 lbs GVWR. This conflicts with the model code info that says 20,200. This truck is a special order--perhaps that had something to do with it or maybe it's a typo or.....

164 3800 = 164 certified net HP @ 3800 RPM

410594
41 = Chicago District Sales Office
0594 = Special Order Number
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The fuel pump is "the same" for all FE/FT engines.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post18923767

There are variations. Some have a canister with a fuel filter, some don't. There may be some issues with the way the fuel lines enter and exit to the carb. Take your pump with you to exchange it or at least make sure you are getting an identical replacement.

This shows the full range of fitment for these, going back to the Y-block.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post11239776

Did you end up with a crankcase full of gas or an engine compartment washdown.....?

My dad rolled in one night with the '58 F600. Says he smells gas. We popped the hood and the fuel pump was pulsing out a spray of gas all over the place. I do not know why it didn't catch fire.....
 

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Old Aug 28, 2023 | 04:34 PM
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Wow that was quick. Thank you!

It did the engine bay spray routine. A real gusher. Lucky it didn't blow hitting the exhaust. Mine is a canister version with filter on the bottom. It's up on a ranch in the mountains so will try and take one up there. Saw some bad reviews on Delphi fittings. I don't have any experience with Carter parts. I see that the Carter M3880 is still available. Can't seem to find any Airtex ones on the internet. Is there a new model rather than the D2TZ9350A in the thread? Any ideas on whether the Napa b-001-P is any good? Sure appreciate the input. Jack

PS anything else revealed in the VIN - color, etc.?
 
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Old Aug 28, 2023 | 07:46 PM
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I do not recall seeing any complaints about Carter pumps or anything from NAPA. Seems like a lot of stuff is questionable these days so give it a good inspection when you buy.

As to more info, you may still have the OEM warranty plate on the driver door. That has the color code, axle, trans etc. If you can post a picture it can be decoded.

How are the wheels? Widowmakers are common on these.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2023 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 85e150
I do not recall seeing any complaints about Carter pumps or anything from NAPA. Seems like a lot of stuff is questionable these days so give it a good inspection when you buy.

As to more info, you may still have the OEM warranty plate on the driver door. That has the color code, axle, trans etc. If you can post a picture it can be decoded.

How are the wheels? Widowmakers are common on these.
I think the wheels are good. I only drive it around the ranch at low speed. Probably pretty exciting when one of those blows. Just ordered the last Carter in inventory from Rock Auto. See below for the full tag.



 
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Old Aug 29, 2023 | 08:58 AM
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Carter was an OEM supplier for fuel pumps on those trucks
 
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Old Aug 29, 2023 | 07:09 PM
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As to the widowmaker wheels, it's exciting if you aren't next to it, it's often a trip to the hospital or morgue if you are.

I've been told a billion times not to exaggerate, but I would still urge you to find some safer wheels. Older GMC military trucks used the same 6 lug pattern and have the "safe" locking ring design, vs. the Tupperware design of the WM wheels.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2023 | 01:18 PM
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Buy new pump and send the old one out to a rebuilder. A few guys do them on the Ford Barn website, or check in Hemmings Motor news services.
 
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Originally Posted by 5851a
Buy new pump and send the old one out to a rebuilder. A few guys do them on the Ford Barn website, or check in Hemmings Motor news services.
Will do on the rebuild. I assume it's just a diaphragm replacement.

Can anyone help with the full decode from the tag? Jack
 
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I'll get back to you later this week. Out of town for the moment.
 
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Safe travels. Thx
 
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See post 2. I did it back on August 29 and added it to your VIN decode. I didn't look at that on 9/11--post 10.
 
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Right there in my face! Thank you again.
 
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