Hi, Im putting a 302 into my 1972 f-100. It is a ranger long bed. I currently have a 360 with a c-6 tranny. The motor is from a 1982 Ltd Crown vic. And i'm putting the AOD tranny in that came with that motor.

I know that i need the motor mounts and small block motor mount supports, and i also understand that i need the tv kit from lokar, by the way if anyone has this kit could you please tell me about how it runs, and how much it costs to get that kit. Anyway im basically just trying to figure out what modifications im going to have to do to be able to put the motor in. I know the guy i bought it from, and his old motor went bad on him, so he bought a new crate motor from ford, i believe oe, and i think its the same as the old one. But when he put it in he totalled his car 200 miles later. So i picked it up for $400 with the tranny. I was just seeing if anyone was fimiliar with what were on these motors, and what im going to have to put on to make it work with the f100. Im changing it back to carbureted. I found a set of hedman headers on summit racing for it. Oh ya, I think i may have to cut the yoke, anybody know about this. Im just trying to put it in as quickly as possible so i can get it back on the road. Thanks a lot

 

I have a 1971 same issue, I have a 302 bored .030 over, .512 cam, performer rpm intake and holley 4bbl i would love to install but there was just too much to change over, lokar kit is about $75.00 and easy to install, just make sure the tv pressures are set close before driving truck!!! Incorrect TV pressure will wipe out an AOD in the blink of an eye...

 

The motor/tranny will be a simple bolt in, with the correct motor mounts and possibly a minor movement or the tranny crossmember. The only question is the tranny mount itself. I dont know if it is compatible with crossmember. May take some fab'ing to make it fit. The driveshaft may need adjusting too, depends on tranny length.

The big thing is the AOD and the shift cable. It MUST be set right or you'll burn it up. That is the downfall. I think lots of people have done it already, so with the Lokar kit I'm sure you can too.

These trucks came with smallblock/automatics so it will fit.

Larry

 

engine frame mounts, engine mounts, hoses, throtle adaptation. driveshaft length, trans linkage, fuel supply, trans mount, all things to consider...
I am going to rebuild the 360 to 390 spec for much less than converting to small block.

 

Hey guys thanks for all the info. This site is really helpful, I just found an article www.ford-trucks.com/articles/5liter.php That helped me a lot.... except they kept the computer and left it fuel injected Its SEFI, and the crown vic is mpfi... What is the difference between these fuel injections? Do you think i should make it carbureted or try and get the computer and everything and make it fuel injected... it says it gets 18 to 20 mpg, that is damn good compared to the ten i get with my 360.

 

I say keep the fuel injection

 

I havent seen the motor yet, so i have to go see it still, but im not sure if its an 82 or an 86, cuz the 82 is carbureted and the 86 isnt.

 

The fuel injected models may have some computer controls to the tranny. You will need to know this if you plan to use the computor lockup tranny. Also haveing the right shifter is importanr. I read an article in Hot Rod last year about overdrives and on of the magazinr staff lost two or three trannys before he got all his shifter detents indexed with the ones inside the transmission.
If you are trying to do a quicky thing you may be in for a disappointment.

 

I think the difference between the two injections is one is throttle body(looks like a carb) the other is multi port(dry intake-uses injectors).

As long as you had the computers and got all the sensors wired okay, they would work. You can also buy a "stand alone" computer that will probably work easier in your application. They are a bit pricey though. The advantage would be it comes with wiring diagram and the factory one doesn't. Which means you need to find someone with knowledge(and a Ford book) to help you trace out the wiring.

All in all, I would stick with a 600 Holley. Pure, simple and will get decent mileage anyhow. The big help is the overdrive tranny,not really the fuel injection. It helps, but I would not suggest it for a "quick" changeover.

Larry

 

I have done this swap with the multiport injection. It was a lot of work, but I fabracated just about every thing- wiring harness, shift linkages, etc. Something to consider about that AOD is the shift pattern, I ran into this problem, as mine came from a Lincon Town Car- The shift linkage between the coloum and the tranny were diffrent directions, as I moved the selector from "P" to "D1" the tranny was backwards- I had to change directions. This involved making two brackets and installing a shifting cable. I will have pics on the web site of these brackets. If I can be any help let me know.
Robert
72 F100 Ranger XLT W/86 5.0L W/ AOD
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Thanks again... I dont know about the fuel injection thing... I would kinda like to have it just to be able and to put other features because of the ecu.... But at the same time I really like carbureted, and anyway i think it maybe an 82 which is carbureted already... With the Aod I cant have a 4v carb unless I get a kit from lokar also for the kickdown. The only concern I have right now is that my shifter is on the steering column and i have heard many people telling me that the tranny has the shift coming from the floor. How would you be able to make it go to my steering column shifter? Any help (detailed if possible) would really help me out.

 

I would also like to know what is a better setup as far as the carb would go... I was thinking about going with edelbrock just because they have been really helpful and everything.. Is holly better or a combination of both. Also I would like to know what kind of difference getting GT40 heads would make, not power wise cuz im guessing 30 to 40 hp depending on what type but more of gas mileage wise.... Im looking to get better gas mileage, that is the whole reason i am doing this swap. And I didnt really mean i want to do it as quickly as possible on my first posting, I just meant I want to start as soon as I can cuz im tired of having the motor and not being able to do anything with it..... Im waiting for someone to move out also, all there stuff is in the garage.. ****TY FOR ME!

 

The EFI is not worth the tropuble for mileage. As a matter of fact many of the EFI Ford engines got no better mileage than the carbed versions. Some were even worse, like the 351 EFI in the pickups. The two I had were horrible on gas. For the plus side there is a bunch of aftermarket goodies for the Mustang stlye EFi.

 

Yup, the mileage is more of an overdrive/rear gearing set up, than fuel injection. Yes, it can make it better, but I think with a good carb, some tuning it will suprise you. And it will not cost a fortune and be a real nightmare to get running.

Larry

 

I put Mustang SEFI on the 5.0 Stang engine in my truck and it blows a carb setup in the water. I had a Performer and a Holley and spent a lot of time getting it jetted correctly. First time out with the SEFI I could tell it had more mid-range torque. It's way more responsive. I've ran Holleys for over twenty years and I'm not going back!