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Old Aug 14, 2023 | 12:03 PM
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52 Ford rear end help

Hey all. I'm just learning about all this, so any help here is appreciated. My '52 Ford Courier Sedan Delivery with the 239 Flathead runs good, but the stock three-speed is geared extremely low. I don't want to drive it over 50 mph because RPMs start getting up there. My question is, I would like to be able to make this a more travel-friendly vehicle. What options would I have? I know nothing about this, so I'm soaking up all the knowledge I can. I found on the internet (so you know it's true! lol) the Sedan Delivery and the Wagons, the available ratios were 3.54, 4.09 and 4.27. I don't know what I have, but I'd like to be able to cruise at 50-55 with less strain (RPMs on it). I hope this makes sense. And I don't know how many RPMs it's running. No tach. But I know high when I hear it (all I've ever driven is standard transmission.) Thank you guys! ***EDIT - I also live on a mountain where the bottom 1/4 of it is steep and the Flathead with its current gearing slows to about 15 mph in second until I crest the toughest part, then I can shift to third. Will changing to a lower ratio kill my pulling power up the mountain?
 

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Old Aug 14, 2023 | 12:39 PM
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Some will come along to advise you of what differential you have and where to look for gear ratios but this should be the first thing you do . If you happen to have the 4.27 or 4.09 a switch to 3.54 would be noticeable . Once you know your ratio , trans ratio ( 3 sp should be 1-1 ) and tire size you can go to an online calculator to find engine rpm .
 
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Originally Posted by EBEAR
Some will come along to advise you of what differential you have and where to look for gear ratios but this should be the first thing you do . If you happen to have the 4.27 or 4.09 a switch to 3.54 would be noticeable . Once you know your ratio , trans ratio ( 3 sp should be 1-1 ) and tire size you can go to an online calculator to find engine rpm .
Thanks EBEAR. The PO told me today it is the original stock and it was "4 something ... I can't remember."
 
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Old Aug 14, 2023 | 02:38 PM
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You need to keep in mind the weight of vehicle and the size of the engine. You may be better off with a swap to an OD transmission. Just an option.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2023 | 02:45 PM
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You need to keep in mind the weight of vehicle and the size of the engine. You may be better off with a swap to an OD transmission. Just an option.
Flathead 239 engines were factory up through the 16,000 lb GVWR F-6 trucks.
 
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50 mph in a F-6 is really cranking the rpm, and yes have done it 60 mile round trip in a M-H F-6 along with many short runs. OP was wanting lower rpm though was my thought. OD has that great kick down when needed. Just an option.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2023 | 04:44 PM
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The Borg Warner OD trans was an option for that vehicle, so if you can locate one, and it shouldn't be too tough, with the right parts would be a bolt in, plug and play operation. Probably no more work or money than swapping the rear. The bonus is you keep the current low speed, in town drivability while adding a more comfortable highway top end.
https://www.fordification.com/tech/overdrive.htm
 
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Old Aug 14, 2023 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 52 Merc
The Borg Warner OD trans was an option for that vehicle, so if you can locate one, and it shouldn't be too tough, with the right parts would be a bolt in, plug and play operation. Probably no more work or money than swapping the rear. The bonus is you keep the current low speed, in town drivability while adding a more comfortable highway top end.
https://www.fordification.com/tech/overdrive.htm
That is a very interesting option, 52 Merc. Thanks for this!
 
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Od with a three on the tree ?
 
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Old Aug 15, 2023 | 09:21 AM
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Od with a three on the tree ?
Sure. Most were after 1940 in cars and 1950 in trucks when the shifter moved from floor to column. The OD is electrically operated and the link above has a great story on how it works, and how to work it.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2023 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 52 Merc
The Borg Warner OD trans was an option for that vehicle, so if you can locate one, and it shouldn't be too tough, with the right parts would be a bolt in, plug and play operation. Probably no more work or money than swapping the rear. The bonus is you keep the current low speed, in town drivability while adding a more comfortable highway top end.
https://www.fordification.com/tech/overdrive.htm
After a bit of research, I think I really like the idea of the Borg Warner OD. My dad said he had one in an old Ford truck in the early 70s. As far as I can tell I need a T85 3 speed. But there's a bunch of things that confuse me when I read about them. There's different lengths, etc. I have a lot to learn about them before I try buying one or pulling one myself. Like to know what exactly fits my Ford. And there doesn't seem to be as many on the net as say the T10. But yeah, I like the BW.
 
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I think you want to be searching for a T86 with R10 overdrive.
 
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The 53/ TAAA-7003-A Ford 3TA 3 speed column shift with BW overdrive maybe an option as well.
 
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VANPELT SALES LLC - your ford flathead source since 2006 This place should have all your answers.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2023 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 5851a
VANPELT SALES LLC - your ford flathead source since 2006 This place should have all your answers.
Thank you! I'll definitely check this out.
 
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