Hazards Lights Issue
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Hazards Lights Issue
Trying to chase down an issue with the hazard lights on my 78 F250. When I put the hazard flashers on with the truck on and in park, nothing happens. But if I put my foot on the brake pedal, my two turn signal arrows on the dash light up and stay on until I take my foot off the brake (no flashing though). I replaced the turn signal switch, the hazard flasher plug thing behind the dash, and the brake light switch on the pedal. Anyone have any ideas as to what could be going on?
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Just checked, and yes--with the hazards off, the brake lights do work normally. Here are the brake/hazard combos I've tested and the outcome:
So basically, there's no signs of my hazard lights working until I put my foot on the brake, which causes both turn signal arrows on the dash to illuminate but not flash.
- Brake pedal depressed, hazards switch off: Brake lights on, no dash lights (works as it should)
- Brake pedal depressed, hazard switch on: Brake lights on, no flashing, turn signal arrows on dash illuminated but not flashing, headlight hazard lights are on but not flashing. As soon as I take my foot off the brake, all headlights and taillights turn off.
- Brake pedal NOT depressed, hazard switch on: Brake lights off, no lights on dash, all headlights and taillights are off.
- Brake pedal NOT depressed, hazard switch off: Brake lights off, no lights on dash.
So basically, there's no signs of my hazard lights working until I put my foot on the brake, which causes both turn signal arrows on the dash to illuminate but not flash.
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As I was going through the testing protocol in those documents, I realized my fusebox is different from all the 1978 f250 fuseboxes references I can find. The previous owner of my truck swapped in a 460. I wonder if they used the wiring harness/fusebox from the donor vehicle. If so, I wonder if there some wrong wiring given the weird occurrence when I put my flashers on and step on the brake.
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Just checked, and yes--with the hazards off, the brake lights do work normally. Here are the brake/hazard combos I've tested and the outcome:
Brake pedal depressed, hazards switch off: Brake lights on, no dash lights (works as it should)
Brake pedal depressed, hazard switch on: Brake lights on, no flashing, turn signal arrows on dash illuminated but not flashing.
Brake pedal NOT depressed, hazard switch on: Brake lights off, no lights on dash.
Brake pedal NOT depressed, hazard switch off: Brake lights off, no lights on dash.
So basically, there's no signs of my hazard lights working until I put my foot on the brake, which causes both turn signal arrows on the dash to illuminate but not flash.
Brake pedal depressed, hazards switch off: Brake lights on, no dash lights (works as it should)
Brake pedal depressed, hazard switch on: Brake lights on, no flashing, turn signal arrows on dash illuminated but not flashing.
Brake pedal NOT depressed, hazard switch on: Brake lights off, no lights on dash.
Brake pedal NOT depressed, hazard switch off: Brake lights off, no lights on dash.
So basically, there's no signs of my hazard lights working until I put my foot on the brake, which causes both turn signal arrows on the dash to illuminate but not flash.
Fusebox in post # 8 above looks normal to me.
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Yea I should've included that in the third one. It should read:
Brake pedal NOT depressed, hazard switch on: Brake lights off, no lights on dash, all headlights and taillights off.
But, I just noticed something else weird. When I have the hazard switch on and the brake pedal depressed, the flasher lights illuminate on the front of the vehicle, but don't flash. As soon as I take my foot off the brake, they turn off. The rear brake lights are the same. hazard switch on and foot on brake...the brake lights light up. As soon as I take my foot off the brake, they turn off.
I'll edit the post you quoted tbear853, to reflect these.
Brake pedal NOT depressed, hazard switch on: Brake lights off, no lights on dash, all headlights and taillights off.
But, I just noticed something else weird. When I have the hazard switch on and the brake pedal depressed, the flasher lights illuminate on the front of the vehicle, but don't flash. As soon as I take my foot off the brake, they turn off. The rear brake lights are the same. hazard switch on and foot on brake...the brake lights light up. As soon as I take my foot off the brake, they turn off.
I'll edit the post you quoted tbear853, to reflect these.
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Yea I should've included that in the third one. It should read:
Brake pedal NOT depressed, hazard switch on: Brake lights off, no lights on dash, all headlights and taillights off.
But, I just noticed something else weird. When I have the hazard switch on and the brake pedal depressed, the flasher lights illuminate on the front of the vehicle, but don't flash. As soon as I take my foot off the brake, they turn off. The rear brake lights are the same. hazard switch on and foot on brake...the brake lights light up. As soon as I take my foot off the brake, they turn off.
I'll edit the post you quoted tbear853, to reflect these.
Brake pedal NOT depressed, hazard switch on: Brake lights off, no lights on dash, all headlights and taillights off.
But, I just noticed something else weird. When I have the hazard switch on and the brake pedal depressed, the flasher lights illuminate on the front of the vehicle, but don't flash. As soon as I take my foot off the brake, they turn off. The rear brake lights are the same. hazard switch on and foot on brake...the brake lights light up. As soon as I take my foot off the brake, they turn off.
I'll edit the post you quoted tbear853, to reflect these.
- A turn signal will take precedence over a brake light, which is why you can signal a turn with the brakes on.
- A brake signal will take precedence over hazard flashers, which means if you step on the brake pedal while flashers are on, the flashers go solid ... all 4 corners.
It is intended that hazard lights be used only when a vehicle is stationary and a hazard to other drivers, and brake lights are of more value to other drivers when they only come on and stay on solid so others know intent.
I walked out to check my memory after posting last, and yes ... when my hazard flashers are on and I press the brake, the 4 hazards stop flashing and all 4 go solid ... as do the green arrows. I've rarely looked at it like that, but I do recall police cars doing it the exact same way back in the days before we had bar lights when I often used the hazards with my bubble on the shoulder of a highway. This today test is likely one of maybe three or five times I've tried it on my '77 since 1986.
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All brake light, turn signal light, hazard flasher light power is coordinated there on the steering column.
It is intended that hazard lights be used only when a vehicle is stationary and a hazard to other drivers, and brake lights are of more value to other drivers when they only come on and stay on solid so others know intent.
I walked out to check my memory after posting last, and yes ... when my hazard flashers are on and I press the brake, the 4 hazards stop flashing and all 4 go solid ... as do the green arrows. I've rarely looked at it like that, but I do recall police cars doing it the exact same way back in the days before we had bar lights when I often used the hazards with my bubble on the shoulder of a highway. This today test is likely one of maybe three or five times I've tried it on my '77 since 1986.
- A turn signal will take precedence over a brake light, which is why you can signal a turn with the brakes on.
- A brake signal will take precedence over hazard flashers, which means if you step on the brake pedal while flashers are on, the flashers go solid ... all 4 corners.
It is intended that hazard lights be used only when a vehicle is stationary and a hazard to other drivers, and brake lights are of more value to other drivers when they only come on and stay on solid so others know intent.
I walked out to check my memory after posting last, and yes ... when my hazard flashers are on and I press the brake, the 4 hazards stop flashing and all 4 go solid ... as do the green arrows. I've rarely looked at it like that, but I do recall police cars doing it the exact same way back in the days before we had bar lights when I often used the hazards with my bubble on the shoulder of a highway. This today test is likely one of maybe three or five times I've tried it on my '77 since 1986.
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Trying to chase down an issue with the hazard lights on my 78 F250. When I put the hazard flashers on with the truck on and in park, nothing happens. But if I put my foot on the brake pedal, my two turn signal arrows on the dash light up and stay on until I take my foot off the brake (no flashing though) ............
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