Little issues adding up
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Little issues adding up
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Is anyone’s 2017+ SD seemingly full of nickel and dime issues? Nothing big enough to make me consider selling it but at the same time these things certainly shouldn’t be happening at 6 years and 65k miles. Here’s what I’ve had in the time I’ve owned my 2017 F-250 6.2 SC 4x4 since new in September 2017:
1.) TPMS sensors- 1 dead one replaced under warranty. 2 more replaced at Tire change due to being bad (out of warranty at that time) the 4th one was still working but since other 3 were bad I had it changed
2.) seized front caliper at about 62K miles. Ate the rest of the pads and rotor. Replaced caliper front pads and rotors. For what it’s worth, other side front had plenty of pad meat left on it (highway miles)
3.) coil packs, covered in corrosion (like disintegrating upon removal) at spark plug change. I changed the plugs/coils/wires at 64K due to this. Owners manual says 96K , plugs at 64K doesn’t bother me but those coils are expensive to be changing that often. Plugs were also pretty rough looking when I pulled them.
4.) coolant reservoir cap (pressure cap) at 65.5K. Was causing coolant smell and slow, slow leak for past 10K miles (maybe 1 qt in 10K miles)
5.) hood latch/switch. Keeps dinging “hood ajar” when driving. Used to be intermittent (one every few months) and would stop if slammed hood really hard but now just always doing it every time I hit a bump. New latch on order will replace next week(65.5k miles) bonus: it causes the alarm to go off at 2am sitting in the driveway if you lock the doors/set the alarm.
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6.) just remembered I had a fluid leak from the back of the transmission where it mounts to the T case at 10K miles. Issue fixed under warranty (seal replaced) has not returned as of now.
So far, none of these things have been huge financial hits ( although the plugs/wires/coils were about $1k for parts) or anything I’d consider to be “completely ridiculous” if it were a one off issue. However the culmination of these over the past 12-18 months is really starting to **** me off enough to avoid Fords going forward. I’ve taken good care of this vehicle as I do every car I’ve owned yet none of them ( yes even modern era vehicles) have given me this level of annoyance issues so early in their life span.
not sure if you’ve all been experiencing the same level of issues or if there’s any that haven’t happened yet to me that are common? Note: the list above does not include common wear items that I’d expect to replace per the maintenance schedule (tires/brakes/battery/filters/fluid etc)
Thanks
Is anyone’s 2017+ SD seemingly full of nickel and dime issues? Nothing big enough to make me consider selling it but at the same time these things certainly shouldn’t be happening at 6 years and 65k miles. Here’s what I’ve had in the time I’ve owned my 2017 F-250 6.2 SC 4x4 since new in September 2017:
1.) TPMS sensors- 1 dead one replaced under warranty. 2 more replaced at Tire change due to being bad (out of warranty at that time) the 4th one was still working but since other 3 were bad I had it changed
2.) seized front caliper at about 62K miles. Ate the rest of the pads and rotor. Replaced caliper front pads and rotors. For what it’s worth, other side front had plenty of pad meat left on it (highway miles)
3.) coil packs, covered in corrosion (like disintegrating upon removal) at spark plug change. I changed the plugs/coils/wires at 64K due to this. Owners manual says 96K , plugs at 64K doesn’t bother me but those coils are expensive to be changing that often. Plugs were also pretty rough looking when I pulled them.
4.) coolant reservoir cap (pressure cap) at 65.5K. Was causing coolant smell and slow, slow leak for past 10K miles (maybe 1 qt in 10K miles)
5.) hood latch/switch. Keeps dinging “hood ajar” when driving. Used to be intermittent (one every few months) and would stop if slammed hood really hard but now just always doing it every time I hit a bump. New latch on order will replace next week(65.5k miles) bonus: it causes the alarm to go off at 2am sitting in the driveway if you lock the doors/set the alarm.
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6.) just remembered I had a fluid leak from the back of the transmission where it mounts to the T case at 10K miles. Issue fixed under warranty (seal replaced) has not returned as of now.
So far, none of these things have been huge financial hits ( although the plugs/wires/coils were about $1k for parts) or anything I’d consider to be “completely ridiculous” if it were a one off issue. However the culmination of these over the past 12-18 months is really starting to **** me off enough to avoid Fords going forward. I’ve taken good care of this vehicle as I do every car I’ve owned yet none of them ( yes even modern era vehicles) have given me this level of annoyance issues so early in their life span.
not sure if you’ve all been experiencing the same level of issues or if there’s any that haven’t happened yet to me that are common? Note: the list above does not include common wear items that I’d expect to replace per the maintenance schedule (tires/brakes/battery/filters/fluid etc)
Thanks
Mountain Pass
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Sounds normal wear out items to me. Next time, try a Tundra.😉😳
I've had 3, great trucks, but could not safely pull my travel trailer.
My 2019 F150 was good but sold it to get the F250. In one year, 3 trips to dealer, 2 recalls bla bla bla. Just like having an 80's American car. But man can it tow with confidence 😃
I've had 3, great trucks, but could not safely pull my travel trailer.
My 2019 F150 was good but sold it to get the F250. In one year, 3 trips to dealer, 2 recalls bla bla bla. Just like having an 80's American car. But man can it tow with confidence 😃
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No not my 17-19 trucks. The Tundra mention is funny as thats about on par with those trucks as i had one of those too and became a big fan, just ordered an LX600 which is based off the 22+ Tundra.
Anyway- Coolant cap and hood ajar, corrosion, brake caliper? Did you buy it new?
Kinda sounds like a rough truck to be honest. If it is that stuff is all minor.
Anyway- Coolant cap and hood ajar, corrosion, brake caliper? Did you buy it new?
Kinda sounds like a rough truck to be honest. If it is that stuff is all minor.
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I hear what you're saying.
Thats little "one off" stuff here and there however.
Not to say that it is not frustrating, but I wouldn't consider that you're in for a consistent barrage of that sort of thing from here on out
My 2019 has 60-ish on it and never had much of any single issue.
Get over this hump and keep enjoying your low mileage truck there 78!
Thats little "one off" stuff here and there however.
Not to say that it is not frustrating, but I wouldn't consider that you're in for a consistent barrage of that sort of thing from here on out
My 2019 has 60-ish on it and never had much of any single issue.
Get over this hump and keep enjoying your low mileage truck there 78!
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Thanks for the replies all.
I’ve owned it since brand new and have maintained per schedule or better. (Also regularly washed in winter).
good to know these random little issues aren’t common which makes me think I’m not in for many more.
no plans to buy a Tundra. I’ve owned half a dozen big 3 products in my life, some new some used. The used vehicles had problems in proportion to their age and mileage, which made sense to me. The new ones I usually got 100K+ out of them before random stuff popped up but ran much longer overall.
I’ve owned it since brand new and have maintained per schedule or better. (Also regularly washed in winter).
good to know these random little issues aren’t common which makes me think I’m not in for many more.
no plans to buy a Tundra. I’ve owned half a dozen big 3 products in my life, some new some used. The used vehicles had problems in proportion to their age and mileage, which made sense to me. The new ones I usually got 100K+ out of them before random stuff popped up but ran much longer overall.
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Only thing on my truck that really bugs me is the random hard start from the fuel pump issue. Not bad enough to warrant dropping the tank to get to the pump but it is a little embarrassing when it does happen.
The rest of the truck has been pretty solid for the 50,000 miles it has on it. I do think the panel gaps/alignment could be better though.
The rest of the truck has been pretty solid for the 50,000 miles it has on it. I do think the panel gaps/alignment could be better though.
Mountain Pass
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1 is typical. 2 less typical but not unusual. 3 pretty unusual but not surprised. 4 and 5, ish happens.
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How bad are your winters? Is it garaged? These things don't really have great corrosion protection from the factory and it sounds like normal issues for the age of the truck if it lives in a harsh environment. I don't think there's many 5+ year old vehicles in the northeast that don't have some stupid little issues. Between seasons that can go from -10F+ to 100+F, bathing the roads in de-icer/salt/sand/gravel half the year and the ensuing potholes and road damage from all that, it takes it's toll on a vehicle. And then any road salt residue that isn't completely flushed off will speed up corrosion when it gets hot and humid in the summer. My cars get an under carriage and engine flush in the Spring, either at home or at a DIY car wash bay. Then spray everything in the engine bay down with WD-40 once it's dry, and again before winter. They also get Fluid Film undercoating every couple years. I still need to do touch up paint work every few years on the undercarriage from being sandblasted every winter. Corrosion never stops so you need to be proactive before it gets embedded, otherwise it's almost a losing battle without serious efforts.
I knew with a guy that owned some car washes in the north east. If you're using an automatic car wash, they usually recycle most of the water and don't remove the salt, so you're marinating your truck in extremely salty water every time you wash it. If it's a good place they'll use 100% clean water for the final rinse, since they need to add makeup water anyway, but some places will use a blend of new/filtered water to cut costs. He never ran his cars through his washes and told me I should rinse my car at home after using them...lol.
I knew with a guy that owned some car washes in the north east. If you're using an automatic car wash, they usually recycle most of the water and don't remove the salt, so you're marinating your truck in extremely salty water every time you wash it. If it's a good place they'll use 100% clean water for the final rinse, since they need to add makeup water anyway, but some places will use a blend of new/filtered water to cut costs. He never ran his cars through his washes and told me I should rinse my car at home after using them...lol.
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Only thing on my truck that really bugs me is the random hard start from the fuel pump issue. Not bad enough to warrant dropping the tank to get to the pump but it is a little embarrassing when it does happen.
The rest of the truck has been pretty solid for the 50,000 miles it has on it. I do think the panel gaps/alignment could be better though.
The rest of the truck has been pretty solid for the 50,000 miles it has on it. I do think the panel gaps/alignment could be better though.
panel gaps on mine I thought were pretty good when new, have gradually become uneven over the past 6 years. I figured it was just a learning curve for Ford with the aluminum body being in its 1st year for the SD. I’d take panel gaps over steel body rust holes though.
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How bad are your winters? Is it garaged? These things don't really have great corrosion protection from the factory and it sounds like normal issues for the age of the truck if it lives in a harsh environment. I don't think there's many 5+ year old vehicles in the northeast that don't have some stupid little issues. Between seasons that can go from -10F+ to 100+F, bathing the roads in de-icer/salt/sand/gravel half the year and the ensuing potholes and road damage from all that, it takes it's toll on a vehicle. And then any road salt residue that isn't completely flushed off will speed up corrosion when it gets hot and humid in the summer. My cars get an under carriage and engine flush in the Spring, either at home or at a DIY car wash bay. Then spray everything in the engine bay down with WD-40 once it's dry, and again before winter. They also get Fluid Film undercoating every couple years. I still need to do touch up paint work every few years on the undercarriage from being sandblasted every winter. Corrosion never stops so you need to be proactive before it gets embedded, otherwise it's almost a losing battle without serious efforts.
I knew with a guy that owned some car washes in the north east. If you're using an automatic car wash, they usually recycle most of the water and don't remove the salt, so you're marinating your truck in extremely salty water every time you wash it. If it's a good place they'll use 100% clean water for the final rinse, since they need to add makeup water anyway, but some places will use a blend of new/filtered water to cut costs. He never ran his cars through his washes and told me I should rinse my car at home after using them...lol.
I knew with a guy that owned some car washes in the north east. If you're using an automatic car wash, they usually recycle most of the water and don't remove the salt, so you're marinating your truck in extremely salty water every time you wash it. If it's a good place they'll use 100% clean water for the final rinse, since they need to add makeup water anyway, but some places will use a blend of new/filtered water to cut costs. He never ran his cars through his washes and told me I should rinse my car at home after using them...lol.
3rd Gear
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Hi All
Is anyone’s 2017+ SD seemingly full of nickel and dime issues? Nothing big enough to make me consider selling it but at the same time these things certainly shouldn’t be happening at 6 years and 65k miles. Here’s what I’ve had in the time I’ve owned my 2017 F-250 6.2 SC 4x4 since new in September 2017:
1.) TPMS sensors- 1 dead one replaced under warranty. 2 more replaced at Tire change due to being bad (out of warranty at that time) the 4th one was still working but since other 3 were bad I had it changed
2.) seized front caliper at about 62K miles. Ate the rest of the pads and rotor. Replaced caliper front pads and rotors. For what it’s worth, other side front had plenty of pad meat left on it (highway miles)
3.) coil packs, covered in corrosion (like disintegrating upon removal) at spark plug change. I changed the plugs/coils/wires at 64K due to this. Owners manual says 96K , plugs at 64K doesn’t bother me but those coils are expensive to be changing that often. Plugs were also pretty rough looking when I pulled them.
4.) coolant reservoir cap (pressure cap) at 65.5K. Was causing coolant smell and slow, slow leak for past 10K miles (maybe 1 qt in 10K miles)
5.) hood latch/switch. Keeps dinging “hood ajar” when driving. Used to be intermittent (one every few months) and would stop if slammed hood really hard but now just always doing it every time I hit a bump. New latch on order will replace next week(65.5k miles) bonus: it causes the alarm to go off at 2am sitting in the driveway if you lock the doors/set the alarm.
So far, none of these things have been huge financial hits ( although the plugs/wires/coils were about $1k for parts) or anything I’d consider to be “completely ridiculous” if it were a one off issue. However the culmination of these over the past 12-18 months is really starting to **** me off enough to avoid Fords going forward. I’ve taken good care of this vehicle as I do every car I’ve owned yet none of them ( yes even modern era vehicles) have given me this level of annoyance issues so early in their life span.
not sure if you’ve all been experiencing the same level of issues or if there’s any that haven’t happened yet to me that are common? Note: the list above does not include common wear items that I’d expect to replace per the maintenance schedule (tires/brakes/battery/filters/fluid etc)
Thanks
Is anyone’s 2017+ SD seemingly full of nickel and dime issues? Nothing big enough to make me consider selling it but at the same time these things certainly shouldn’t be happening at 6 years and 65k miles. Here’s what I’ve had in the time I’ve owned my 2017 F-250 6.2 SC 4x4 since new in September 2017:
1.) TPMS sensors- 1 dead one replaced under warranty. 2 more replaced at Tire change due to being bad (out of warranty at that time) the 4th one was still working but since other 3 were bad I had it changed
2.) seized front caliper at about 62K miles. Ate the rest of the pads and rotor. Replaced caliper front pads and rotors. For what it’s worth, other side front had plenty of pad meat left on it (highway miles)
3.) coil packs, covered in corrosion (like disintegrating upon removal) at spark plug change. I changed the plugs/coils/wires at 64K due to this. Owners manual says 96K , plugs at 64K doesn’t bother me but those coils are expensive to be changing that often. Plugs were also pretty rough looking when I pulled them.
4.) coolant reservoir cap (pressure cap) at 65.5K. Was causing coolant smell and slow, slow leak for past 10K miles (maybe 1 qt in 10K miles)
5.) hood latch/switch. Keeps dinging “hood ajar” when driving. Used to be intermittent (one every few months) and would stop if slammed hood really hard but now just always doing it every time I hit a bump. New latch on order will replace next week(65.5k miles) bonus: it causes the alarm to go off at 2am sitting in the driveway if you lock the doors/set the alarm.
So far, none of these things have been huge financial hits ( although the plugs/wires/coils were about $1k for parts) or anything I’d consider to be “completely ridiculous” if it were a one off issue. However the culmination of these over the past 12-18 months is really starting to **** me off enough to avoid Fords going forward. I’ve taken good care of this vehicle as I do every car I’ve owned yet none of them ( yes even modern era vehicles) have given me this level of annoyance issues so early in their life span.
not sure if you’ve all been experiencing the same level of issues or if there’s any that haven’t happened yet to me that are common? Note: the list above does not include common wear items that I’d expect to replace per the maintenance schedule (tires/brakes/battery/filters/fluid etc)
Thanks
17- f350 SRW Platinum
1-Sunroof Drain Hose Came Loose - caused water to get in BCM- ford had truck a month 10k miles
2 Track bar joint failed 34k miles
3- steering stabilizer failed - 38k miles
4- Steering stabilizer again -ford had truck a month- due to backordered part- 50k mi
5- With 94500k miles I took it in with turbo making a popping noise, only when first starting out and only for a 10-15 seconds. Ford said nothing wrong. With 96500mi took it back, they threatened me with diagnostic fee cause nothing wrong. Called at 98k miles to have documented again, said I must bring it in and would be charged if they couldn't find the problem. Called again at 99k miles, they said it was documented and Ford would cover it it was just out of warranty cause the problem started before warranty expired (THIS WAS A LIE).
I finally took them truck with trailer and left it at 101k miles and left it for a couple weeks They finally heard it with a 6x12 enclosed trailer behind it. Dealer took truck out without trailer and nothing, hooked back up and heard it again.
Since their mechanics couldn't find the problem I had to pay 2k for the part Ford wouldn't cover cause my warranty had expired. -I'M Still Pissed About That One-.
6- I noticed the track the rear glass slides on is loose and the sliding rear window can easily be pushed in and is leaking some water 115k miles (Ford said to watch for this one)
7- 133k miles and now I'm out a cp4 costing $9250.00
I bought this truck because the 14 f350 was and still is the best truck I have Ever Had, ZERO Problems with 198k miles and counting!
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Im in the same boat
17- f350 SRW Platinum
1-Sunroof Drain Hose Came Loose - caused water to get in BCM- ford had truck a month 10k miles
2 Track bar joint failed 34k miles
3- steering stabilizer failed - 38k miles
4- Steering stabilizer again -ford had truck a month- due to backordered part- 50k mi
5- With 94500k miles I took it in with turbo making a popping noise, only when first starting out and only for a 10-15 seconds. Ford said nothing wrong. With 96500mi took it back, they threatened me with diagnostic fee cause nothing wrong. Called at 98k miles to have documented again, said I must bring it in and would be charged if they couldn't find the problem. Called again at 99k miles, they said it was documented and Ford would cover it it was just out of warranty cause the problem started before warranty expired (THIS WAS A LIE).
I finally took them truck with trailer and left it at 101k miles and left it for a couple weeks They finally heard it with a 6x12 enclosed trailer behind it. Dealer took truck out without trailer and nothing, hooked back up and heard it again.
Since their mechanics couldn't find the problem I had to pay 2k for the part Ford wouldn't cover cause my warranty had expired. -I'M Still Pissed About That One-.
6- I noticed the track the rear glass slides on is loose and the sliding rear window can easily be pushed in and is leaking some water 115k miles (Ford said to watch for this one)
7- 133k miles and now I'm out a cp4 costing $9250.00
I bought this truck because the 14 f350 was and still is the best truck I have Ever Had, ZERO Problems with 198k miles and counting!
17- f350 SRW Platinum
1-Sunroof Drain Hose Came Loose - caused water to get in BCM- ford had truck a month 10k miles
2 Track bar joint failed 34k miles
3- steering stabilizer failed - 38k miles
4- Steering stabilizer again -ford had truck a month- due to backordered part- 50k mi
5- With 94500k miles I took it in with turbo making a popping noise, only when first starting out and only for a 10-15 seconds. Ford said nothing wrong. With 96500mi took it back, they threatened me with diagnostic fee cause nothing wrong. Called at 98k miles to have documented again, said I must bring it in and would be charged if they couldn't find the problem. Called again at 99k miles, they said it was documented and Ford would cover it it was just out of warranty cause the problem started before warranty expired (THIS WAS A LIE).
I finally took them truck with trailer and left it at 101k miles and left it for a couple weeks They finally heard it with a 6x12 enclosed trailer behind it. Dealer took truck out without trailer and nothing, hooked back up and heard it again.
Since their mechanics couldn't find the problem I had to pay 2k for the part Ford wouldn't cover cause my warranty had expired. -I'M Still Pissed About That One-.
6- I noticed the track the rear glass slides on is loose and the sliding rear window can easily be pushed in and is leaking some water 115k miles (Ford said to watch for this one)
7- 133k miles and now I'm out a cp4 costing $9250.00
I bought this truck because the 14 f350 was and still is the best truck I have Ever Had, ZERO Problems with 198k miles and counting!
It’s like Ford gets the big picture right but totally misses and/or cheaps out on details. I really question if these have been corrected as the model’s life progressed as most automakers do. For the money people spend on these trucks you’d think they would engineer the details better or at least fund some continuous improvement initiatives internally and through the supply base.
Hopefully that’s the last of them for you, although if I had a 9K part fail at 130K miles that shouldn’t have, plus all the other small/medium issues the fix would be called “Chevy”
Fleet Mechanic
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Man, I hate to jinx myself! My 2013 F250 6.2 with the 6R140 transmission has been pretty much flawless. I have 95,000 miles on it and other than a squealing belt tensioner, it’s just been normal routine maintenance.
fingers crossed!
fingers crossed!
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[QUOTE=America78;20927026]yeah I’d definitely be mad with those higher dollar issues combined with the dealer Bsing you and then out and out lying.
It’s like Ford gets the big picture right but totally misses and/or cheaps out on details. I really question if these have been corrected as the model’s life progressed as most automakers do. For the money people spend on these trucks you’d think they would engineer the details better or at least fund some continuous improvement initiatives internally and through the supply base.
Hopefully that’s the last of them for you, although if I had a 9K part fail at 130K miles that shouldn’t have, plus all the other small/medium issues the fix would be called “Chevy”[/QUOTE
Well it’s my understanding that Chevy, Cummings, & Ford all use the same cp4 so I can’t fault Ford or correct that issue with another brand. To try and not have this happen again I am putting a DCR conversion pump in this time and its SUPPOSED to be a much better pump, fingers crossed.
I thought about buying another Superduty but they wouldn’t even take orders last I check
It’s like Ford gets the big picture right but totally misses and/or cheaps out on details. I really question if these have been corrected as the model’s life progressed as most automakers do. For the money people spend on these trucks you’d think they would engineer the details better or at least fund some continuous improvement initiatives internally and through the supply base.
Hopefully that’s the last of them for you, although if I had a 9K part fail at 130K miles that shouldn’t have, plus all the other small/medium issues the fix would be called “Chevy”[/QUOTE
Well it’s my understanding that Chevy, Cummings, & Ford all use the same cp4 so I can’t fault Ford or correct that issue with another brand. To try and not have this happen again I am putting a DCR conversion pump in this time and its SUPPOSED to be a much better pump, fingers crossed.
I thought about buying another Superduty but they wouldn’t even take orders last I check
