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Old Aug 17, 2023 | 05:45 PM
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I heard a certain gap is allowed between the fan and shroud. Is this excessive gap, or normal?
I feel like that could’ve been my issue as well.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2023 | 08:11 PM
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The blades should be as close to the shroud but not hit it when the motor moves.
The other thing the blades should be half in and out from the edge of the shroud.
If in to far the air the fan is trying to pull thru the radiator will hit the inside of the shroud and cant move it out.
If it is outside to far it will not pull air thru the shroud & radiator.

A test to see if the fan is pulling air as it should get a sheet of paper and hold it up to the grille when running.
If it is pulling air the paper should stick to the grille and if pulling really good stick pretty hard.

Not knowing what the hot temp is in traffic we cant say if it is too hot or just a little hotter than normal.
Also the AC blowing hotter you running 134a in the system?
My 02 Dodge and my 81 F100 (factory AC) both blow warmer if I sit idling for a bit.
The water temp also goes up at the same time on the F100. The 02 Dodge has a factory blower fan out front of the condenser & radiator.
That fan comes on as soon as the AC is turned on.

So the water temp going up a little in traffic and the AC blowing warmer is normal in
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Old Aug 17, 2023 | 09:01 PM
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It’s got 134a. I’ll do that paper test tomorrow. I need to get a gauge but I need to get weatherstripping for winter first.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2023 | 09:12 PM
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HO fan time!
 
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Old Aug 17, 2023 | 10:49 PM
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Get a new thermal fan clutch. Should not need an additional electric fan. There are tons of these trucks still on the road and they never needed one for 30 years.

With a bad or weak fan clutch it will still move some air but not nearly as much. So, it will seem things are normal. I have had trucks where things would seem fine except AC wouldn't blow cold at idle or low speeds and it was either this or low on refrigerant. And sometimes when it was really hot outside the temperature gauge would creep up just a hair in traffic.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2023 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Hit Man X
HO fan time!
What is this HO fan? Was there a different fan for heavy duty or super cooling with the bigger radiator and slimmer shroud setup? I like to convert these trucks to that radiator/shroud in hot climates like TX.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2023 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Hit Man X
HO fan time!
Can you link me one that will work? I can’t find one by a quick search. I’ll go look more, I’ll update if I find it
 
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Old Aug 18, 2023 | 01:22 AM
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302 high output. Plastic fan, moves way more air.
 
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Is this what you're calling an HO fan (this is pkg with clutch too)?

https://lmr.com/item/LRS-2733K/Musta...h-Kit-79-93-50
 
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Old Aug 18, 2023 | 01:34 PM
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It is a stock fan off a Fox body 5.0, the ~225hp 302. Yes, that is the fan blade. I use a Hayden HD clutch, part number was for truck but probably applies to Fox too. My rad is just a two row aluminum from Autozone. Flowkooler water pump.

Apparently there were two metal fans for the 302 in the truck. I have no clue and tossed my metal fan long ago. My truck did not come with the towing package, but may have come with the 'Super Engine Cooling' for all I know as it was sold in South Texas new. I am guessing that contains but is not limited to:

HD fan clutch
Larger radiator
High count fan blade (4.9 went from five to seven for example)
 
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Old Aug 18, 2023 | 03:58 PM
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I heard a certain gap is allowed between the fan and shroud. Is this excessive gap, or normal?
I feel like that could’ve been my issue as well.
Looks like you have the wrong fan or wrong fan shroud on your truck. The tips of the blades should be 3/4" away from the shroud.

Excessive clearance will cause the air to recirculate in the fan shroud and not pull air through the radiator.

Not-enough clearance will cause the fan to strike the shroud as the engine moves on its mounts.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2023 | 04:00 PM
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Here is a pic of my fan upgrade on the 4.9. I will measure bolt spacing for you when home. Probably works on 302/351 fine.





 
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Old Aug 18, 2023 | 05:08 PM
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Did paper test sticks perfect cold, barely when it’s warm. Is that a bad clutch?
 
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Old Aug 18, 2023 | 05:31 PM
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That is a good sign of a bad, or less than ideal, fan clutch. If you have the 5 blade fan, you might try to find the "bigger" fan while you are at it.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2023 | 06:08 PM
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Center to center on the 4.9 is about 2.125". Maybe 302/351 is also. If not, grab a HO fan while apart.

Agreed, sounds like a crapped clutch.
 
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