2023 test drive
Cargo Master
Joined: Apr 2021
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From: NW Wyoming USA
I have never gotten a cash offer from Ford. I was in the market for a Bronco that I was hoping I could get a cash offer on, but neither was possible for me it seems, the order process is way too screwed up and dealers are not willing to sell at MSRP even on units on the lot for some time.
Ended up buying myself and the missus each a 4Runner. Lol. At the rate this going, after a life time of buying Fords, my 22 SD may end up being the last one.
Ended up buying myself and the missus each a 4Runner. Lol. At the rate this going, after a life time of buying Fords, my 22 SD may end up being the last one.
I got 2 separate cash offers from Ford for 2023s. One was only good til July and the other maybe September? Either way, I'm happy with the looks and driving of my 2022. I would be foolish to get rid of it. Drives great, tows great, not trading it in just to get the newest latest thing. My 1995 has been an amazing truck. If I sold it I would kick myself for decades. I've only HAD to invest in a set of brakes. Other than that it has been a flawless truck. If my 2022 is as reliable I will be thrilled.
Used it and traded in that 2022 SD for another 2022 SD and they owed me money back.
Just emailed that dealership to see if they can do the same deal again for a 2023 with the $2k ECO I have.
Laughing Gas
Joined: Apr 2003
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Truck ride is a pretty nebulous quantity... some truck owners like a compliant ride, others, like me, like it to ride like a truck. Further, I would suspect a SC/SB would ride a LOT different than a CC/LB, etc.
Thankfully, I've got 18's on mine, with 70-aspect sidewalls it rides about as smooth as my 17" 75-aspect '09, with the benefit of better springs. I joke that my '09's rear leaf springs are made from spaghetti noodles, they are so soft... it literally wallows with weight in the back. The '23 handles weight very well.
My biggest complaint about the driveability of my new SuperDuty.... is the heavy steering. Gone are the days of 1-finger steering...
Thankfully, I've got 18's on mine, with 70-aspect sidewalls it rides about as smooth as my 17" 75-aspect '09, with the benefit of better springs. I joke that my '09's rear leaf springs are made from spaghetti noodles, they are so soft... it literally wallows with weight in the back. The '23 handles weight very well.
My biggest complaint about the driveability of my new SuperDuty.... is the heavy steering. Gone are the days of 1-finger steering...
If I could have gotten the HO without "upgraded" suspension, I probably would have.
As for steering, I was surprised not so much at steering effort, as steering ratio.
Feels closer to my 59 Bird, than any other modern vehicle I own. But it does track
better, and pull much less on highway crowns, than that Dodge ever did.
Logistics Pro
Joined: May 2021
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My 23 rides much worse than my outgoing 05 Cummins. Both CC/LB/4WD's.
If I could have gotten the HO without "upgraded" suspension, I probably would have.
As for steering, I was surprised not so much at steering effort, as steering ratio.
Feels closer to my 59 Bird, than any other modern vehicle I own. But it does track
better, and pull much less on highway crowns, than that Dodge ever did.
If I could have gotten the HO without "upgraded" suspension, I probably would have.
As for steering, I was surprised not so much at steering effort, as steering ratio.
Feels closer to my 59 Bird, than any other modern vehicle I own. But it does track
better, and pull much less on highway crowns, than that Dodge ever did.
Hotshot
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 12,347
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From: SW VA
Ram front end has always been sloppy in my experience with them. When I went back to an F250 from a Ram 2500, both with SFA, the Ford felt like an explorer with the straight tracking and easy effort, not to mention much easier to return to center. With the Rams you REALLY have to pay attention going down the road and after a turn it felt like driving Ford econolines, you gotta put effort back into getting the wheels back to going straight.
Laughing Gas
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 1,147
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From: McKinney, TX
Both my 1999 and my 2009... 2WD with the twin I-beam... were/are the easiest trucks I've ever driven, I can fling that thing any which way, and they are the best trucks I've ever driven in snow, ice, and rain. My 2017 2500HD (2WD) would grab any crack on the road and start wandering, that's in addition to being pushed around by the wind like a sailboat.
I understand my 2023 is a completely different animal... 4WD, solid axle... but this thing steers slow, and with effort. I'm sure I'll get used to it, but for now, driving it in and out of neighborhoods, alleyways, and around parked cars and such, lets just say I'm having to slow down a bit and pay attention... more than I would have in either the '09 or the '17 HD.
I understand my 2023 is a completely different animal... 4WD, solid axle... but this thing steers slow, and with effort. I'm sure I'll get used to it, but for now, driving it in and out of neighborhoods, alleyways, and around parked cars and such, lets just say I'm having to slow down a bit and pay attention... more than I would have in either the '09 or the '17 HD.
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