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Old Jun 3, 2023 | 07:44 PM
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Original wheel sizing

Wheel offset and backspacing.
I have 16" wheels that are 8 lug. After watching videos on changing the tires with the rings, I have given in to buying new wheels and tires. No tire place around here wants to change the tires and tubes. Even if they would, I would have to supply the tubes.
I can take the spare in for measurement but I thought maybe someone here would know. To get rims, I will need the offset and backspacing so they clear the fenders and brakes. I searched. Anybody?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2023 | 08:30 PM
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Places that sell or work with larger truck tires will be familiar with and probably not afraid to work on the two-piece non-widowmaker wheels. If they are in decent enough shape to continue using, and you find a truck tire shop that’s willing, I’d take that route. You ought to be able to find some newer 8-lug steel wheels without too much problem, the same bolt pattern was used on, I think, Dodge trucks, and later generations of Ford trucks/vans ,but they will not be of the innie type like originals. If you change yours, someone will buy your lock ring type wheels, again, assuming they aren’t widowmakers and aren’t horribly rusted. Someone else will have to give you dimensions, though, hopefully member Stu, who knows all things wheels will chime in.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2023 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Grampa69
Wheel offset and backspacing.

I have 16" wheels that are 8 lug. After watching videos on changing the tires with the rings, I have given in to buying new wheels and tires.

No tire place around here wants to change the tires and tubes. Even if they would, I would have to supply the tubes.

I can take the spare in for measurement but I thought maybe someone here would know. To get rims, I will need the offset and backspacing so they clear the fenders and brakes. I searched. Anybody?
8 lug wheels on a 6.50" bolt circle: 1953/96 F250 / 1967/97 F350 / 1969/74 E300 / 1975/2013 E250/350 / 1997 F250 Heavy Duty // Ford continued the 1997 F250 H/D & F350 thru 1998.

1999 and later F250/350 have metric wheels, but no Econoline (E100/150/250/350) of any year has metric wheels.

 
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Old Jun 4, 2023 | 05:59 AM
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Thanks. That will be great if they have the same spacing for clearing the brakes etc. I don't want some computer jockey at the counter looking it up and ordering something, waiting for it to come in, mounting and then...

 
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Old Jun 4, 2023 | 06:31 AM
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Thanks. That will be great if they have the same spacing for clearing the brakes etc. I don't want some computer jockey at the counter looking it up and ordering something, waiting for it to come in, mounting and then...
Since Econolines look completely different than F100/350, people walk past them in wrecking yards not knowing that the wheels are the same.

Some of the 1975/2013 E350's have DRW (Dual Rear Wheels), you do not want these wheels.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2023 | 01:28 PM
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I’ll ditto ibuzzard and suggest you keep your originals if they aren’t damaged. The locking ring Firestone RHP type rim was a heavy duty specification. Nothing wrong with keeping them in service. Find a big truck shop. Stu
 
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Old Jun 5, 2023 | 03:05 PM
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I just spent most of today at tire places trying to find one that would change them. No place would and they all said it was because of insurance liability reasons. I'll have to take it to Orlando for any big truck tire places. Shops that sell tires and wheels don't keep anything that size in stock so buy new combo was not an option either.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2023 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Grampa69
I just spent most of today at tire places trying to find one that would change them. No place would and they all said it was because of insurance liability reasons. I'll have to take it to Orlando for any big truck tire places. Shops that sell tires and wheels don't keep anything that size in stock so buy new combo was not an option either.
You’re just a bit south of Orlando? The short ride might just save you spending a grand or more on new wheels, worth the drive to me. Or hit up some salvage yards and search for a set of the myriad other wheels mentioned that would fit? Hope it it all works out for you.

 
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You’re just a bit south of Orlando? ..hit up some salvage yards and search for a set of the myriad other wheels mentioned that would fit? Hope it it all works out for you.
Thanks. Salvage yards around me only seem to keep the newer stuff anymore. I'll head to Orlando on my next day off and try. There is an area called Taft that has big trucks and might be willing to change them.
 
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They can probably get the tubes you’d need, you might need to buy your own tires.
 
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Call some of these truck stops. findtruckservice.com/search/?city=Orlando%2C+FL&mainCat=1&subCat=Tire+Repair&l at=28.5384&lon=-81.3747&cat_field=Mobile+Repair+-+Tire+Repair
I wouldn't change the tubes unless there is something wrong with the ones you have. Any new ones are likely made where English isn't their first language. A good old American made tube will last for decades.
I don't remember if those rims used liners to keep the tube from chafing on the rim but if they do new ones may be hard to find.
 
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Hi Crop Duster,
You are right about finding liners to protect the inner tube. The tire shop I found put a black tape on my rims to protect the tubes. I noticed on my ten yr old tubes they were cracking down in the hole of the rim where the stem comes out. So to be safe, I had them replaced. Saved them...of course.
 
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I went down a list of places in Orlando/Taft. Fun thing is, another went flat. It's the stems at the tube. The first one started leaking at the base of the stem. I tugged and it tore off. The second is just as bad. The spare is ok for now for the first one.
I thought about the liners and was going to use the old tubes, cut like liners. Chances are the tubes will just rip apart.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2023 | 12:56 PM
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Most tire places don't keep wheels/rims to look at. They say, they can order them if I tell them what I am looking for. That's like letting a stranger pick my next wife. I looked online but still have to call them because the site says they fit but they say they are 5 lug, not the 8 lug I would need. Glad I don't need this truck to get me to work. I'd like to get rid of a vehicle if I can count on the truck someday. I knew everything was dry rotted but I didn't realize how long it takes to get stuff.
 
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