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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 12:13 PM
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Smile What about that EFI temp sensor?

I'll bet this is a new one! I am thinking of installing a low temp thermostat in this engine, along with cooler plugs, so I can bump the timing up some without detonation. I have done this on carb engines with good success. I know that on these EFI engines, there is at least one temperature sensor that tells the EEC when the engine is up to temperature, and to lean out the injectors.

If the engine doesnt get warm enough, the EEC wont lean things down, and there goes the fuel economy. Has anybody found a way around this with lower degree temperature sensor to accomplish what I am trying? Or, is there more to the picture than I am seeing?

I am intending to do head porting, headers, dual exhaust, Diablo chip, and possibly a Cam research camshaft.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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I wouldn't go below a 180 degree thermostat personally. The computers use the engine coolant temperature sensor to control the amount of spark advance, the correct air/fuel ratio, cold start rich mixture, etc., for best economy and performance and is an important piece of the EFI system. Your engine will perform better if it is at least 180 degrees.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by EPNCSU2006
I wouldn't go below a 180 degree thermostat personally. The computers use the engine coolant temperature sensor to control the amount of spark advance, the correct air/fuel ratio, cold start rich mixture, etc., for best economy and performance and is an important piece of the EFI system. Your engine will perform better if it is at least 180 degrees.
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 12:35 AM
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If you are going to change cams and such, you will either need to have a custom chip burned or my suggestion, convert it over to mass-air. This will let the computer adapt to the increased air flow.
If you don't, it will run very lean and have less power than you have now.
I have seen this done on a friend of mines Mustang.
He installed a B303 cam, ported the heads, off road exhaust and such.
My stock motored LX beat him by 8 car lengths because his car ran so lean.
Mass-air will increase your throttle responce and make driving it alot nicer.
Jimmy
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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It sounds like a 180 is the coolest recomended thermostat. The van has a stock 195, which seems plenty warm to me. Since the computer sees the engine as being "warmed up" at 180, will the 180 be adequate, or borderline?

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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by madmurdok
It sounds like a 180 is the coolest recomended thermostat. The van has a stock 195, which seems plenty warm to me. Since the computer sees the engine as being "warmed up" at 180, will the 180 be adequate, or borderline?

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I'd say borderline...with that T-stat, it'll probably bounce between "Open" and "Closed" loop, especially in cooler temps.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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180 should be fine. That's what I run, and notice no driveability problems at all. Gas mileage on my 302 is around 15 driving around the city and about 19 on highway trips.
 
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