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Old Jun 2, 2023 | 07:07 PM
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Upfitter switches

Upfitter switches. I have them in my 2022 SD that has the diesel. Wanted to use a switch to supply power to a rearview mirror type of monitor for my trailer camera. Supplied wires/adapter was too short to reach the cigarette receptacle in center console.
Anyway I got into the wiring at the relay/fuse box in the engine compartment finding the blanked off wires for aux switch wiring. I also found the 4 pass though wires. Butt spliced the brown wire which is supposed to be for switch 4. Butt spliced the power supply for the camera what would step down 12v to the camera voltage to the pass through wire in the cab. Same color coding as the wire I used in the engine compartment. Thinking this is easy but Ford could have left a bit more length on the wires.
System works, camera monitor comes on when I start the truck. What's weird is the switch does nothing. IE I can't turn the camera monitor off with the aux switch. It always has power when the engine is on regardless of switch position. Any ideas what's going on here or what did I do wrong???
 
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Old Jun 2, 2023 | 07:23 PM
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Did you determine that the upfitter wire used was switch number 4 by the tag on the wires, or by the owners manual?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2023 | 08:09 PM
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You ran the upfitter switch wire to the positive wire on the camera?
Sounds like it is just wired to some always hot wire, not the switch wire.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2023 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
You ran the upfitter switch wire to the positive wire on the camera?
Sounds like it is just wired to some always hot wire, not the switch wire.
Yup that's what it seems like to me also. A wire that was hot. I went by the tag on the wire bundle. Brown which is one of the wires coming out of the relay/fuse box is supposed to be switch #4. Pass through wires weren't attached to any wire on each end. Butt spliced the positive to the pass through and attached the ground to a ground that was on the frame. I'll have to chase the wires tomorrow. Like an idiot I didn't put a meter on the wire I used to see if it was actually #4.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2023 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Kimbrey
Yup that's what it seems like to me also. A wire that was hot. I went by the tag on the wire bundle. Brown which is one of the wires coming out of the relay/fuse box is supposed to be switch #4. Pass through wires weren't attached to any wire on each end. Butt spliced the positive to the pass through and attached the ground to a ground that was on the frame. I'll have to chase the wires tomorrow. Like an idiot I didn't put a meter on the wire I used to see if it was actually #4.
As I recall, none of the upfitter wires was a single color, all were a color with a stripe I believe, but it's been quite a while since I messed with mine.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2023 | 10:24 PM
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I think switch 4 is listed a gray with brown tracer wire.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2023 | 10:24 PM
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Well, just checked my OM and you're right, solid brown is #4, the only one that uses a solid color!
 
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Old Jun 2, 2023 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
I think switch 4 is listed a gray with brown tracer wire.
Not for 2022 apparently.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2023 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
Well, just checked my OM and you're right, solid brown is #4, the only one that uses a solid color!
The 2022 OM had wrong information. Wrong wire colors, wrong amperage, and diagrams that were for the F-150, not Super Duty. That's why my first question asked where he got the wire color info. I would check the body builders layout book.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2023 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
Well, just checked my OM and you're right, solid brown is #4, the only one that uses a solid color!
Yup it did match up on the tag and the owners manual. It isn't powered until the ignition is on. Switches 5 & 6 I think can be powered with the ignition off if you switch the small fuse in the box forward but 1 thru 4 shouldn't have that option.
I'll tear into again in the morning. Dang it I'll have to run down to the local marine supply store to get some more heat shrink butt connectors for that wire size.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2023 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Kimbrey
Yup it did match up on the tag and the owners manual. It isn't powered until the ignition is on. Switches 5 & 6 I think can be powered with the ignition off if you switch the small fuse in the box forward but 1 thru 4 shouldn't have that option.
I'll tear into again in the morning. Dang it I'll have to run down to the local marine supply store to get some more heat shrink butt connectors for that wire size.
The fact that the 2022 manual is wrong has been posted in several threads but it's still not well known. I wasn't aware that they also screwed up on the label attached to the upfitter wires.

This might be more accurate, you'll have to verify...

 
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Old Jun 3, 2023 | 01:27 PM
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I know that the aux4 label in that table is correct.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2023 | 01:55 PM
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The sticker on my 22 has the following:
Relay1 BN/GN
Relay2 VT/OG
Relay3 BU/GN
Relay4 GY/BN
Relay5 BN/BU
Relay6 GY/OG
RUN/START BN
PTO Out GN/WH
PTO Relay Control BU/GN
20A B+ BN/RD
 
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Old Jun 3, 2023 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckeye-SD
The sticker on my 22 has the following:
Relay1 BN/GN
Relay2 VT/OG
Relay3 BU/GN
Relay4 GY/BN
Relay5 BN/BU
Relay6 GY/OG
RUN/START BN
PTO Out GN/WH
PTO Relay Control BU/GN
20A B+ BN/RD
Pretty close to matching the table above, except for aux 3, that appears to have a typo in the table (/BN instead of /GN). I wonder why the label on the OP's harness says BN for relay 4. As if the owners manual being wrong wasn't enough, slap the wrong label on too, to really confuse people.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2023 | 11:11 PM
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Did you run the brown pass thru wire to the upfitter relay or the positive battery lead? It should go to the upfitter relay.
 
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