Another CP4 failure -
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Another CP4 failure -
Seems like there is more cp4’s failing lately
maybe the higher cam lobes in an effort to get more psi…don’t know
good info from a consumers perspective
https://youtu.be/f-6dtIku4wE
maybe the higher cam lobes in an effort to get more psi…don’t know
good info from a consumers perspective
https://youtu.be/f-6dtIku4wE
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I saw that video the other day - it does have a good perspective that should be appreciated by folks who are willing and capable of doing their own work/maintenance.
With that said, I don't think it's a systemic issue with the truck. All parts have a degree of failures, regardless if it's gas, diesel, or any other mechanical piece with moving parts. It sucks when it's a lift pump in a diesel as the consequences are significant.
I think the real issue isn't the CP4, it's how Ford handles these warranty requests. They have designed the process around first blaming the owner and scouring the vehicle for the slightest bit of evidence to support that claim, even if only marginally supported.
With that said, I don't think it's a systemic issue with the truck. All parts have a degree of failures, regardless if it's gas, diesel, or any other mechanical piece with moving parts. It sucks when it's a lift pump in a diesel as the consequences are significant.
I think the real issue isn't the CP4, it's how Ford handles these warranty requests. They have designed the process around first blaming the owner and scouring the vehicle for the slightest bit of evidence to support that claim, even if only marginally supported.
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I saw that video the other day - it does have a good perspective that should be appreciated by folks who are willing and capable of doing their own work/maintenance.
With that said, I don't think it's a systemic issue with the truck. All parts have a degree of failures, regardless if it's gas, diesel, or any other mechanical piece with moving parts. It sucks when it's a lift pump in a diesel as the consequences are significant.
I think the real issue isn't the CP4, it's how Ford handles these warranty requests. They have designed the process around first blaming the owner and scouring the vehicle for the slightest bit of evidence to support that claim, even if only marginally supported.
With that said, I don't think it's a systemic issue with the truck. All parts have a degree of failures, regardless if it's gas, diesel, or any other mechanical piece with moving parts. It sucks when it's a lift pump in a diesel as the consequences are significant.
I think the real issue isn't the CP4, it's how Ford handles these warranty requests. They have designed the process around first blaming the owner and scouring the vehicle for the slightest bit of evidence to support that claim, even if only marginally supported.
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Probably not, but they would have to prove the DPK was the cause of the failure, which would be extremely difficult since it is designed to split the feed into the separate chambers without any reduction of fuel flow or pressure. If anything it would help boost the warranty claim since it prevents damage to the rest of the system.
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It shouldn't, but knowing Ford, it most likely will. For me, I felt it was worth the risk of protecting the rest of my fuel system should the CP4 take a dump and installed the S&S kit rather than hope that Ford would honor the warranty if I ever needed it.
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I just bought one for my 2022 but havent installed it yet. I can deal with Ford walking away from the CP4 failure and me having to eat it. I can't deal with having to fight for a $12k fix for the whole fuel system. BTW, I reached out to S&S for info on what Ford has been saying regarding CP4 failures with the DPK installed, but so far crickets. That's not reassuring, just saying.
The Ford reps who monitor this board (and FMC in general) being totally silent on all of this is remarkably disappointing as well. I got it, its about $$ and admitting liability, but I've owned 4 PSDs and I expect better. I understand parts fail as I'm a technology manager and engineer, but when the failure of a part causes a chain reaction, that's **** poor FMECA and totally unacceptable, especially when that part/assembly has no way of being accurately monitored.
The Ford reps who monitor this board (and FMC in general) being totally silent on all of this is remarkably disappointing as well. I got it, its about $$ and admitting liability, but I've owned 4 PSDs and I expect better. I understand parts fail as I'm a technology manager and engineer, but when the failure of a part causes a chain reaction, that's **** poor FMECA and totally unacceptable, especially when that part/assembly has no way of being accurately monitored.
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I just bought one for my 2022 but havent installed it yet. I can deal with Ford walking away from the CP4 failure and me having to eat it. I can't deal with having to fight for a $12k fix for the whole fuel system. BTW, I reached out to S&S for info on what Ford has been saying regarding CP4 failures with the DPK installed, but so far crickets. That's not reassuring, just saying.
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I'd say the DPK and additives are the best options we have until someone else comes out with a replacement. Well that and trying to choose a fueling station that hopefully has good diesel... but we have even less control of that... hence the DPK and additives.
Also, for the record, if you are interested in installing after market cold or hot charge pipes, or new intakes, it would be a good option to do it all at once!
Also, for the record, if you are interested in installing after market cold or hot charge pipes, or new intakes, it would be a good option to do it all at once!