Ford Switching to Tesla Connector
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Ford Switching to Tesla Connector
This is huge news. Starting in 2025, Ford will completely switch from CCS to Tesla’s NACS plug. Currently-produced Ford EVs will be capable of using Tesla’s Superchargers with an adapter that should be available next spring.
I wonder if this is the beginning of the end for CCS? It would be fantastic if every automaker came around to using the same connector.
https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...hargers--.html
I wonder if this is the beginning of the end for CCS? It would be fantastic if every automaker came around to using the same connector.
https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...hargers--.html
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Obviously Tesla's charging systems is the gold standard and have been in production for too long without some standardization. Since the government is pushing for EV implementation, they're the ones that should have lead the standardization of charging systems and they lack the common sense.
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It wouldn’t have bothered me much if things consolidated to CCS, but the connector is much clunkier than Tesla’s streamlined and durable design. I’m on my first road trip since switching back to a Tesla and have been using EA stations instead of Superchargers to take advantage of a nontransferrable charge pass that came with my EV6. Only 1/3rd of my charge stops worked without errors or reduced speed, and I think these reliability issues are a big factor behind GM and Ford’s decision.
I’m curious to hear whether they install both ports on their cars in 2025, or exclusively use Tesla NACS. A lot of smart folks are thinking they’ll keep both to enable more charging options.
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I find this sad news for Tesla owners who will have to wait for FORD’s to charge up first at the charging stations. So much for quicker charging times & exclusive charging areas. What has FORD & the power companies been doing with all the EV / infrastructure money taxpayers have been forced to hemorrhage to them? Hopefully Tesla will move to hydrogen fuel cells & leave everyone attached to the extension cord.
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I find this sad news for Tesla owners who will have to wait for FORD’s to charge up first at the charging stations. So much for quicker charging times & exclusive charging areas. What has FORD & the power companies been doing with all the EV / infrastructure money taxpayers have been forced to hemorrhage to them? Hopefully Tesla will move to hydrogen fuel cells & leave everyone attached to the extension cord.
I’m on a road trip this weekend. The EA charger I used in Lafayette, IN had four spots, three operational, and I slid into the last one. The Supercharger across the freeway had 22/24 stalls available. There’s plenty of capacity, and the added revenue will help them build even faster. More important in the long run is third-party networks like EVGo and others who have much more incentive to build Tesla connectors into their chargers in addition to, or in place of CCS.
This could be a minor inconvenience to Tesla owners at times, but I think it’ll be a major benefit to the public overall. I think it’s a great move.
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Yoohoo, Nissan, are you listening... ?
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I wonder if Ram will follow suit? Tesla has put the Capital down to build the Supercharger network, whereas every other manufacturer has either released a home 120v or 240v charger and or having to go to the dealership to charge up. The only existing chargers even at stores has been Tesla. One of the Hyvees in Lincoln has I think 6 or 8 at the far end of the parking lot (thankfully).
Tesla has more or less refused to go with an industry standard universal charger setup for one reason or another. Looking at the crap show that Ford received when TFL and other online auto magazines showed how poorly the Lightning does while towing, I'm not surprised that they decided on this. Now I wonder how much money each manufacturer is going to give Tesla in possibly a joint venture to further expand the charger network. At this point it could grow a lot faster over the coming decade with more companies using the Tesla charging plug.
Tesla has more or less refused to go with an industry standard universal charger setup for one reason or another. Looking at the crap show that Ford received when TFL and other online auto magazines showed how poorly the Lightning does while towing, I'm not surprised that they decided on this. Now I wonder how much money each manufacturer is going to give Tesla in possibly a joint venture to further expand the charger network. At this point it could grow a lot faster over the coming decade with more companies using the Tesla charging plug.
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The snowball effect has taken ground and it's rolling out of control. Volvo just announced they're going with Teslas connector as well. I had no idea about Rivian getting in on this but it appears so as well.
"The news comes as the automotive standards organization known as SAE International announces support for NACS to become a fully recognized standard."
https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/27/23775579/volvo-tesla-electric-car-supercharger-nacs
"The news comes as the automotive standards organization known as SAE International announces support for NACS to become a fully recognized standard."
https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/27/23775579/volvo-tesla-electric-car-supercharger-nacs
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ChargePoint announced NACS availability recently too. This is how it is supposed to be... The best product/service gets the money. It is not supposed to be what our elected officials "think" is the best gets the money.
Link: https://www.chargepoint.com/about/ne...ng-ev-charging
Link: https://www.chargepoint.com/about/ne...ng-ev-charging
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Add EA and Blink to the list that'll use NACS.
https://electrek.co/2023/06/29/elect...r-ev-chargers/
https://electrek.co/2023/06/29/elect...r-ev-chargers/