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Old May 20, 2023 | 11:15 AM
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Always a good idea to verify the basics but misadjusted timing will not trigger codes.

Determine what the codes really are.
 
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Old May 22, 2023 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rla2005
Always a good idea to verify the basics but misadjusted timing will not trigger codes.

Determine what the codes really are.
Okay bought a scanner and got the codes. I tried to clear the memory but not sure if I did or not. Still got the 512 during the KOEO test. Now I have the codes 311,411,167 during the KOER test. What are those codes?
 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 06:29 PM
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Can anyone tell me about codes 311,411, and 167?
 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 07:13 PM
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I will look them up shortly for you
I have a 1994 PCED (somewhere)
 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 07:49 PM
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167 Insufficient throttle position change during dynamic response test KOER
311 Secondary air system inoperative during KOER bank 1 dual HEGO's
411 Cannot control RPM during KOER low RPM check
 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 07:51 PM
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So, in the middle of that running test you are to do 3 things quick, any order
Actuate the BOO switch by pressing hard on the brakes
You are to make the PSPS switch close by turning the steering wheel back and forth once hard
You are to perform a brief WOT (wide open throttle) (missing this during the running test sets the 167 code)
First Q
Is the truck stock?
Probably ought to attempt a few pinpoint tests for the other 2 codes (unless the air system has been deleted)?
 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by manicmechanic007
So, in the middle of that running test you are to do 3 things quick, any order
Actuate the BOO switch by pressing hard on the brakes
You are to make the PSPS switch close by turning the steering wheel back and forth once hard
You are to perform a brief WOT (wide open throttle) (missing this during the running test sets the 167 code)
First Q
Is the truck stock?
Probably ought to attempt a few pinpoint tests for the other 2 codes (unless the air system has been deleted)?
Yes I did all that. And after the wide open throttle I got the "flutter" of the check engine light and then it gave me my codes. It would probably help to note if I didn't before that the motor will randomly fall on its face especially around 40 mph but it could have any time. Like its stallling or something when I go to raise the rpms, so the tps sensor would make sense. And yes it is stock but the guy I bought it from said that it may throw an egr code but everything to me looks like it is still there and completely stock
 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 08:21 PM
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They also want the trans switch actuated if equipped
 
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Originally Posted by manicmechanic007
They also want the trans switch actuated if equipped
Yes I also turned the OD off and then back on
 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 08:28 PM
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Your catalytic converter
When the substrate gets broken up
Sometimes it can go sideways in there and you cannot go over say 30 MPH intermittently
It can get straightened back out and all of the sudden the truck goes fine
If you are looking at a drivability issue as well as the codes, some hoops are next
Pinpoint tests and drive it with a fuel pressure and a vacuum gauge taped to the windshield
You want to see if and when it falls on it's face, if the vacuum goes to zero, and what is the fuel pressure doing
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Old May 23, 2023 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by manicmechanic007
Your catalytic converter
When the substrate gets broken up
Sometimes it can go sideways in there and you cannot go over say 30 MPH intermittently
It can get straightened back out and all of the sudden the truck goes fine
If you are looking at a drivability issue as well as the codes, some hoops are next
Pinpoint tests and drive it with a fuel pressure and a vacuum gauge taped to the windshield
You want to see if and when it falls on it's face, if the vacuum goes to zero, and what is the fuel pressure doing
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Honestly whoever had this truck before me I think got rid of the catalytic converter. It has cherry bombs on it now and I'm pretty sure they did away with the cat converter
 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 08:52 PM
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Nothing will screw you like that besides the TP sensor as far as those codes, and you have no actual TP code
So, I'd be all for seeing the TP voltage throughout its range
The 3 digit code trucks have PID capability
So a bad **** scanner will read pids like my NGS
You can carefully backprobe the TP connector looking for .8 to 1.3v closed throttle and 4.5 to 5.0v at WOT
Then clear codes and retest
 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 08:55 PM
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Well, it has O2 sensor bungs welded in and O2 sensors in there? Right?
 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 08:58 PM
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Sounds like your exhaust will not or should not be plugged up
I would test the engine vacuum while driving it around anyway, along with the fuel pressure test gauge on the windshield
 
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