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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 04:33 PM
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Well, I have my spreadsheet started with pricing from different companies. Most of the items from Riffraff he gets right from Ford. So I will call my local dealer and see if my discount can help knock down some of the cost. If its only a couple bucks (<$100) I will most likely go through him.

However the PMS is getting deep. After reading HvyHaulr 550 build thread in its entirety last night it made me really hopeful that with a couple green backs I can make this truck just as good as the new ones. After driving from Green Bay Wisconsin to Gatlinburg Tenn. With a 32' enclosed gooseneck in my dads 2020 CCSB F-250 with the 6.7 and King ranch ultimate package I told myself I would start saving for a new truck. Much like HvyHaulr it only gets used once a week to town and on weekends hauling the tractor/boat. That being said the new truck vibe is tamed for now.

As much as I shouldn't spend the extra money I am deeply considering injectors (200/30) and HPOP. Biggest fear is the trans. There again, if it came up I would probably drive to BTS with my truck and offer him a complete 2wd trans with TC that was taken out of a low milage crash.

Going to send an email to Rosewood about injectors and see what he recommends. Hoping he would be interested in a set from a 97 that I have laying around from a poor oil cooler job from a different mechanic.

Edit: CNC Fab will purchase cores from you. So if I have an extra, might as well buy it right!?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 12:18 AM
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Hey!! I now live in Vegas. 😃
Legit Vegas? Not Henderson?

Congrats either way! You can now see Raiders games with 15k visiting soccer fans.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 03:18 AM
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Legit Vegas? Not Henderson?

Congrats either way! You can now see Raiders games with 15k visiting soccer fans.
Okay I’m in Henderson but everyone knows that’s just where I sleep.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 05:40 AM
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Edit: CNC Fab will purchase cores from you. So if I have an extra, might as well buy it right!?
200/30 are one of my favorite sizes.

Rumor has it that cnc not only buys core hpops and injectors, but also give more value if used for store credit, and they also build pretty decent injectors
 
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 10:33 AM
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k. **Fun fact, the county I live in requires testing for septic systems and of course the one that I need is the most expensive one. So had to clear 12, 80' pine trees down to the allow the plumbers to install the mound system where it perked.** So after installing an outdoor wood burner and mound system I am finally ready to start working on ol' faithful. Of course the outdoor burner heats my shop and man is it nice turning the dial and working in heat.

Fast forward to the middle of November of '23, I decided out of the blue I was going to pull the motor. So that has been done and only broke 2 things, which I didn't think was bad for being in the rust belt. Trans cooler coupling broke and one of the bolts that hold the core support. Just when I think I am going to make progress, I get shipped out of the country for work. Come home to find out my wife is pregnant with our first! Little baby girl Bernadine Rose. Man, what a life change that is. So blessed.
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Congrats on the little one! Kiddos are certainly a blessing.

I installed an outdoor boiler for my shop and house last fall. How nice it is not to use $7k of oil a winter now.

Gas co is expanding a wellpad on the property, so I just got a LOT of free firewood!




 
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 11:11 AM
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Congrats on the little one! Kiddos are certainly a blessing.

I installed an outdoor boiler for my shop and house last fall. How nice it is not to use $7k of oil a winter now.

Gas co is expanding a wellpad on the property, so I just got a LOT of free firewood!



That is awesome! I was fortunate to make a good relationship with my neighbor with 180 acres that recently had it select cut. Most of it is softwood which still burns but I got a decent amount of cherry, ash, and maple with the deal as well. But, we had some crazy heavy snow late in the year and heavy rain this srping that took down several huge trees on my property. Just need it to dry up so I can get to the back with my tractor. Owning land is great, but man its alot of work! Last year We burned about 5-6 cords of wood. I have roughly 16 cord available now. Just have to cut it up and stack it. Never enough time in the day.

I forget to share things here, but here is my setup.

First fire up of the central boiler 6048. Poor pear tree broke due to not harvesting enough.

Shop heat setup. Will roast me out in my 32x38x8 garage. Dont mind the panel. I decided to rewire the entire building and put everything in conduit.

This is my setup for our domestic water. This heats the water that supply's our water heater. We turn the breaker off on the water heat as soon as the burner fires up. Man is it nice having endless and instant hot water.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 11:16 AM
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Took some time to visit some sites while in Vegas.
I was fortunate enough to book the tours of each. Got to go into the Dam and power plant. As well as in the shop of Shelby America.
Hoover Dam and Shelby America

Nevada side power plant tour. Notice the two 300 ton cranes.

This is the rotor from Nevad 3. This unit weighs 600 tons. Notice the Polaris ranger next to it for size.

Overall view from the Tillman Bridge

Intake towers viewed from the Arizona side.

This is from the Dam tour, this is about halfway up the dam out one of the vents.

Someday I will have a shelby, whether it is old or new.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 11:26 AM
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5-6 cord would be nice, I went through like 16.

pulling 225k btu off a too small 150k btu boiler (going bigger this year)
shop is 100k btu of that, 30x65 and poor insulation/single pane windows.

hopefully I will be down to the 10-12 cord a year range with a larger capacity boiler that wont need to be run full tilt non stop.

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Hooked into the boiler system in the house


 
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 12:49 PM
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From the looks of this, I am guessing that your (Home) boiler is also heating your domestic water? Or do you not have that hooked up to it? I see the plate exchanger in the bottom right corner but that looks like it is just heating the boiler water.

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Correct, the boiler mate is heated via the oil boiler, I have the exchanger hooked up to keep the boiler up to temp, then the zones kick on as needed and the boiler system circulates just like it would if the oil burner was running.
This is nice for the fact I can shut the valves from the boiler system running through the exchanger and it will automatically go back to running just like it did before I installed the exchanger/outdoor boiler. This is great for if I go away, the wife doesnt have to worry about feeding the stove and can focus on chasing the 3 kiddos around the house instead lol.
I also have it set so if the boiler core goes below 140 degrees(like if I forget to add wood) the oil automaticaly takes over(be careful as this will heat backwards to the outdoor boiler without manually closing the valves to the exchanger, and heating the outdoor boiler from the indoor oil one gets expensive fast, but is a good safety measure for if the fire unexpectedly goes out in cold weather, the outdoor boiler wont freeze).

The small loop above the boiler that goes to the circulating pump(actually dont need the pump, though I might) is for warm weather, it just gravity circulates some fluid through the exchanger to keep the boiler core temp up and avoid the oil from kicking in once or twice a day.(you can believe how much I hate hearing the oil burner going anymore!)

The house has 6 zones, so this seemed the easiest way to keep things intact. (Basement radient floor, Laundry radient floor, Attached garage radient floor, 1st floor h20 baseboard, 2nd floor h2o bseboard, hot water boiler mate)

Next year after I go bigger outdoor boiler I plan to add a seasonal loop out to the above ground pool, and run a pool exchanger to help heat that, that will get shut off and blown out with air every winter, with the exchanger being brought inside since the pool exchangers are expensive.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 01:21 PM
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Correct, the boiler mate is heated via the oil boiler, I have the exchanger hooked up to keep the boiler up to temp, then the zones kick on as needed and the boiler system circulates just like it would if the oil burner was running.
This is nice for the fact, I can shut the valves from the boiler system running through the exchanger and it will automatically go back to running just like it did before I installed the exchanger/outdoor boiler. This is great for if I go away, the wife doesnt have to worry about feeding the stove and can focus on chasing the 3 kiddos around the house instead lol.
I also have it set so if the boiler core goes below 140 degrees(like if I forget to add wood) the oil automaticaly takes over(be careful as this will heat backwards withoiut manually closing the valve, and trying to heat the outdoor boiler from the indoor oil one gets expensive fast).

The small loop above the boiler that goes to the circulating pump(actually dont need the pump, though I might) is for warm weather, it just gravity circulates some fluid through the exchanger to keep the boiler core temp up and avoid the oil from kicking in oce or twice a day.(you can believe how much I hate hearing the oil burner going anymore!)

The house has 6 zones, so this seemed the easiest way to keep things intact. (Basement radient floor, Laundry radient floor, Attached garage radient floor, 1st floor h20 baseboard, 2nd floor h2o bseboard, hot water boiler mate)

Next year after I go bigger outdoor boiler I plan to add a seasonal loop out to the above ground pool, and run a pool exchanger to help heat that, that will get shut off and blown out with air every winter, with the exchanger being brought inside since the pool exchangers are expensive.
Nice work, I have done so much research and designing of my system. It reminds me of this forum actually. If we had Natural gas at the road, I would probably have done that to save the money up front. But I have absolutely no regrets installing this system. I purchased the boiler used to see if I liked it. All in all, with fittings, thermopex, water treatment and misc. supplies. I am right around 10k for install and 4500 of that was the burner. With just heating our house it will pay for itself in 2.5-3 years. You add int having a heated shop that wasn't before I bet 1.5-2 years. Now I won't go without heat in the garage ever again.

Love the pool idea!
 
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 01:45 PM
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Nice work, I have done so much research and designing of my system. It reminds me of this forum actually. If we had Natural gas at the road, I would probably have done that to save the money up front. But I have absolutely no regrets installing this system. I purchased the boiler used to see if I liked it. All in all, with fittings, thermopex, water treatment and misc. supplies. I am right around 10k for install and 4500 of that was the burner. With just heating our house it will pay for itself in 2.5-3 years. You add int having a heated shop that wasn't before I bet 1.5-2 years. Now I won't go without heat in the garage ever again.

Love the pool idea!
Shame I have 2 natural gas pads on this property, free gas, if I pay for hookup, which is way too much....

I have about the same cost into my setup, a bit less on the boiler, but 230' of line from the house to the boiler was not cheap!

I really enjoyed having my shop not being filled with fumes from a diesel torpedo heater on a thermostat!

Thinking I may rent this firewood processor again this year..



 
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Here is my current Parts list.
I called Ford today and my discount doesn't come close to Riffraff. I also looked at Fordpartsgiant.com and they were cheaper but have heard nothing but bad things about them. So Ill spend an extra $100 and know I wont have issues.

Reading all the threads on here, there are items that I want to do at some point but probably wont order at this time. Those are as follows

Sound deadening, need to do more research on this
Glow plugs, Mine haven't shown any issues starting in the Wisconsin weather
HPOP, after talking with Jim (Rosweood), and Eswift. my stock 152k mile pump should be fine for what I am doing
Tie rod,Balljoints, Wheel Bearings, Hubs. Would love to rebuild my front axle but really need to look and see if I can find a set from 05+ and gain the turning radius,ride quality. But if I can't find something realitively soon then I will rebuild my stocker.
Trans Filter, My fluid is good and not burnt. I plan to avoid sticking anything into this trans as I am sure the new setup will roast it. Then I plan to take my trans and a second complete 2wd 4r100 with triple disc converter down to BTS and see if we can work something out. If anyone knows of a good Kit, I am capable of building one. But I want all the major fixes that BTS does. I am sure he has some minor trade secret stuff going on as well.

Oil pan, after talking with Skiskyjason I am still on the fence about the spectra, aftermarket pan. I need to call the local bedliner Line-x or bullet liner and see how much they charge. Just 5 weeks ago my Aunt and Uncle closed their two line-x franchise locations otherwise that would have been no problem. That would drop $245 with shipping over the Morosso.



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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 07:23 PM
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i saved your spreadsheet, will save a lot of looking in future.
 
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External transmission filter is a bad idea.

I would consider upgraded HPO lines. Just skip the 3rd line ‘HPx’ mod. I’ve installed many sets of CNC Fab JIC lines.

on edit: after you watch Brian build your transmission, you’ll see what is different. As far as a DIY build goes, my transmission shop can’t get everything needed to build a 4R100 right now and is installing Jasper built transmissions at this point. Although I haven’t talked to him for a few months so that may have changed.
 
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