Level from the factory?
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Level from the factory?
I measured my truck and noticed it was almost level with a full fuel tank and no passengers. I have done no mods to the truck and there was no trailer hooked up. I ordered the truck with heavy service front suspension, could this cause it to sit higher in the front? It's almost 2" lower in the rear with my fifth wheel hooked up and it hasn't even made full contact with the upper overload leaf.
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There's a chart posted here recently that had the height/wire size dimension on the available front springs for SD's
If memory serves, the difference between them was that the wire size was increased for the increased weight bearing, with no advantage given to the height
I ordered HSFS on my 22 which ended up having a rake slightly over 2" with the 7.3
No level on the cheap from Ford unfortunately, slipped in some 1" Truxx spacers, all good
If memory serves, the difference between them was that the wire size was increased for the increased weight bearing, with no advantage given to the height
I ordered HSFS on my 22 which ended up having a rake slightly over 2" with the 7.3
No level on the cheap from Ford unfortunately, slipped in some 1" Truxx spacers, all good
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4wd Low
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I wasn't actually looking for level from the factory, it just appeared that way. I'm looking for level while towing. Maybe I need to invest in some rear lift blocks? Any idea how high I can go before pinion angle gets too extreme?
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What does the Front GAWR say on the jamb sticker, what size block does it currently have, and what cab/engine configuration is it? On the last gen you could use the block that was used at the rear of the Tremor, should be able to do the same and gain an 1".
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Get some airlift airbags (airsprings) and you will be very happy. I have them on my 350 srw, and they do great towing my Momentum Toyhauler. Will also put them on my 2023 F-450 when it arrives!
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4wd Low
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The front GAWR is 5,600 lbs. I'll have to measure the block when I get home and the truck is a cclb.
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I added the snow plow/camper package to my 22 F250 with 6.7 and it sits pretty level unladen. The front springs are the stiffest/tallest 5990 springs. I have never gotten the tape out and measured, but it doesn't look like it has much rake at all. Even my 6000 lb camper can make it look a little nose high, and it also has the HCTT package, which is the same 5 spring leaf pack on the rears as the 350's. However, TorkLift sent me a set of their lower StableLoads and they make the truck sit level when hooked up. They are very easy to use... I engage them while towing and disengage them when not towing. I have been pretty happy with them.
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I think the cclb trucks come with the most rake, as they get shorter it seems less noticeable. My scsb with the plow prep sits pretty darn level, I do not think it needs any front lift
The stiffer springs do not compress as much so with the same static load they will be taller.
I think the plow prep is a little less effective at leveling the diesel trucks because they are much heavier on the front than the gas, 6-700 lbs heavier and the stiffest springs Ford offers are 6000 lbs. On my plow prep gas truck the rating is 5600.lbs
The stiffer springs do not compress as much so with the same static load they will be taller.
I think the plow prep is a little less effective at leveling the diesel trucks because they are much heavier on the front than the gas, 6-700 lbs heavier and the stiffest springs Ford offers are 6000 lbs. On my plow prep gas truck the rating is 5600.lbs
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it makes sense, stretching out the wheelbase means the center of weight moves toward front axle, with the rear being mostly just the weight of the frame and bed. Though with a full tank of 48 gallons of fuel, a bed cover, and some tools and odds and ends the rear end is fine for me. A little bit of cargo settles it down nicely. I travel a lot of interstate so while I would prefer a SCSB for personal use, I see the value in CCLB's ability to swallow up expansion joints and irregularities in the road, and it's 900+ mile range if I keep it under 72 mph. Trade offs I suppose.
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The truck is a 2022 F350 Lariat cclb 4wd FX4, 7.3, 4,148 lbs payload, front GAWR 5,600 lbs, rear GAWR 7,230 lbs, GVWR 11,900 lbs. It has captain's chairs up front and the twin panel moon roof. Also 20" wheels.
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it makes sense, stretching out the wheelbase means the center of weight moves toward front axle, with the rear being mostly just the weight of the frame and bed. Though with a full tank of 48 gallons of fuel, a bed cover, and some tools and odds and ends the rear end is fine for me. A little bit of cargo settles it down nicely. I travel a lot of interstate so while I would prefer a SCSB for personal use, I see the value in CCLB's ability to swallow up expansion joints and irregularities in the road, and it's 900+ mile range if I keep it under 72 mph. Trade offs I suppose.
Like you, I bought the truck that serves my needs best. Has to be short to fit in the garage, plow snow and only hauls 1-2 people 99% of the time. If we take it on the road hauling an RV, one day, the cclb diesel with a 48 gallon tank is the most likely choice.
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4wd Low
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But do the stiffer springs make the front end taller or just not drop as much under a heavier load?
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