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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 12:40 PM
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Yes it has. I was at my Ford dealer for a couple hours and the only people there were waiting on service. What little stock they have has some pretty hefty price tags too. A used Mach-E is listed for a hair under $50K, and what new stock they have is a loosely spaced 1 row. They also have a Lightning on the lot, but I didn't ask the price.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RidgwaySD
Against the law in Colorado... The dealer we bought my wifes Jeep from also has a Subaru dealership just two doors down. I had her Golf for sale privately because we had to wait on the Jeep to be built and the Jeep dealer gave me a crap trade number. So the subie dealer manager wants to buy the Golf, wants to pay my full private party retail asking. Even though the dealerships have the same owners, they could not give me trade credit for that $27k car. I still came out a little ahead because our tax is 3.9% and the difference was over $4k between the Jeep trade offer and what the Subie dealer bought it for.

One thing is for sure, the game has changed at the dealerships and many are running some strange programs trying to stay afloat through this mess.
You are talking about two dealers, the person who posted this said it was "sold" to another consumer not another dealer. I'd imagine how it works is on paper the dealer buys the vehicle being traded in, then sells it immediately to the other purchaser, so technically the dealer sold both vehicles. It's all a matter or how paperwork is completed.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CheeseheadFord
You are talking about two dealers, the person who posted this said it was "sold" to another consumer not another dealer. I'd imagine how it works is on paper the dealer buys the vehicle being traded in, then sells it immediately to the other purchaser, so technically the dealer sold both vehicles. It's all a matter or how paperwork is completed.
If you are a good customer with the dealer they will do this. If the dealer is also a DMV issuer, they will handle the registrations for it too. They do a quick take ownership, put it on their books, then turn around and sell it to the other person, and that way it shows under their count and make some money on the registrations too. Some will do it for a small fee as well, that way you know you have a good transaction and all parties win
 
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by clippity-clop
Yes I live in Tennessee and nearly 10% TAX
I'm also in TN and when I bought my new F450 out of state, I had to stroke a $9100 check to register it and pay the taxes. That sucks bad! Therefore, i'd recommend trading unless you just get a really lowball number.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gSwift
I'm also in TN and when I bought my new F450 out of state, I had to stroke a $9100 check to register it and pay the taxes. That sucks bad! Therefore, i'd recommend trading unless you just get a really lowball number.

OOOF thats nearly twice what I had to pay in IL. Bought mine, used, in Green Bay and taxes were ~ $4500. I had traded in my F-150 which brought the taxes down considerably.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gSwift
I'm also in TN and when I bought my new F450 out of state, I had to stroke a $9100 check to register it and pay the taxes. That sucks bad! Therefore, i'd recommend trading unless you just get a really lowball number.
I live about 1.5H from a state that has no sales tax and I get stories all the time from my customers about them buying trucks and trailers out of state and thinking they were going to get away with not paying the Titled states sales tax . Any purchase you register with your state gets taxed accordingly.

We all do enjoy the unregistered large purchases from out of state though. 3-4 hour round trip to save 6.25%, 6.35%, or 7% on a purchase in the 10s-100s of thousands is worth it.

10% may be pretty hard to come out ahead on a private party sale.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 01:51 PM
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If you're tired of paying sales tax open an LLC in Montana.... No idea how it works but read plenty of threads here and else where of people doing it while buying high dollar vehicles and paying zero in tax....
 
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CheeseheadFord
If you're tired of paying sales tax open an LLC in Montana.... No idea how it works but read plenty of threads here and else where of people doing it while buying high dollar vehicles and paying zero in tax....
Problem with that for the average joe is now your vehicle is registered to a business and you have to conform to commercial code. Usually a larger negative associated with that than the tax you're going to pay. No doubt tons of positives for those who understand the tax code but for the majority who are going to just consult an attorney and accountant to handle the LLC for them its not worth it.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by OverheadCram
Problem with that for the average joe is now your vehicle is registered to a business and you have to conform to commercial code. Usually a larger negative associated with that than the tax you're going to pay. No doubt tons of positives for those who understand the tax code but for the majority who are going to just consult an attorney and accountant to handle the LLC for them its not worth it.
Valid points, just pointing out there are a few loop holes if one knows how to use them to their advantage. I agree likely not worth it for the avg joe, including myself.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by OverheadCram
Problem with that for the average joe is now your vehicle is registered to a business and you have to conform to commercial code. Usually a larger negative associated with that than the tax you're going to pay. No doubt tons of positives for those who understand the tax code but for the majority who are going to just consult an attorney and accountant to handle the LLC for them its not worth it.
The tax codes are written that way on purpose.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jollyrogr
The tax codes are written that way on purpose.
Shhh! Don't give it away ... even though its all public information and anyone can play the game.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2023 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by OverheadCram
I live about 1.5H from a state that has no sales tax and I get stories all the time from my customers about them buying trucks and trailers out of state and thinking they were going to get away with not paying the Titled states sales tax . Any purchase you register with your state gets taxed accordingly.

We all do enjoy the unregistered large purchases from out of state though. 3-4 hour round trip to save 6.25%, 6.35%, or 7% on a purchase in the 10s-100s of thousands is worth it.

10% may be pretty hard to come out ahead on a private party sale.
Yeah I buy most of my trucks out of state, and as you mentioned, in a normal market can save 8-10k easily off MSRP. Now if we want new toys we are forced to pay MSRP or MSRP+ in some cases. I was fortunate to find my truck in North Carolina last September as a customer order and then the customer couldn't secure financing so I got it at MSRP. The bad part was, getting it at MSRP felt like a bargain.

When I lived in Alabama, the sales tax on a car was like 3.25% since I lived outside the city limits. Then once I moved to Tennessee it was over 9%. I'll definitely be trading next time to get that sales tax break.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2023 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CheeseheadFord
If you're tired of paying sales tax open an LLC in Montana.... No idea how it works but read plenty of threads here and else where of people doing it while buying high dollar vehicles and paying zero in tax....
This is mainly for full time RV people who no longer have a "home state" address to mail to, which is a requirement in order to obtain a drivers license. Their RV and drivers license is registered in Montana. How the rest works, not a clue, but in the RV community its a rather big thing.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2023 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by acdii
This is mainly for full time RV people who no longer have a "home state" address to mail to, which is a requirement in order to obtain a drivers license. Their RV and drivers license is registered in Montana. How the rest works, not a clue, but in the RV community its a rather big thing.
They would be better off claiming residency in an income tax free state that has low sales tax.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2023 | 11:45 AM
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