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Old Apr 24, 2023 | 10:15 PM
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Just got a 2019 Powerstroke and I want to know the pros and cons of doing a DPF delete.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2023 | 11:00 PM
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It might void any kind of warranty, if you got one. It might also make the check eng light or the wrench light to be on all the time.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2023 | 11:12 PM
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Pros: Better fuel mileage. No DEF to ad and dont have to ad more plastic jugs to our landfills. Cooler transmission and engine operating temps. Less soot in oil.
idling for long periods no longer a problem. Read the owners manual where it states to avoid idling bc of emissions equipment.
Engine will last longer.
never have an emissions system related engine code or limp mode.
no catching grass or fields on fire from extremely hot exhaust pipe during regen.

lots of pros for deleing.




Cons: illegal.
Very harmful ash from dpf regens if inhaled or breathed in will forever stay in your lungs with Long term effect unknown bc it would go against governments narrative.
Powertrain warranty gone. Once tuned its forever recorded and no going back for warranty coverage.

No delete tunes or exhaust parts available for purchase in the USA.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2023 | 07:36 AM
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Not today, EPA!!
 
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Old Apr 25, 2023 | 07:47 AM
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$10,000 fine plus scrapping of vehicle if caught. All it takes is a complaint about rolling coal to the EPA with your license plate. You don't even need to purposely roll coal, just start from a dead stop with a load and have black smoke come out. Even worse if they record video of it and send it in. Times are changing with Diesel emissions and they are going after owners now that they eliminated the shops that sold the tunes and parts and now have all the owners records.

The pros listed above do show that the emissions hamper the engines performance, but then the exhaust stinks terribly bad when deleted. My last truck was deleted, ran like it was being chased by banshees, but the smell of the exhaust made me want to puke.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2023 | 07:52 AM
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$10,000 fine plus scrapping of vehicle if caught. All it takes is a complaint about rolling coal to the EPA with your license plate. You don't even need to purposely roll coal, just start from a dead stop with a load and have black smoke come out. Even worse if they record video of it and send it in. Times are changing with Diesel emissions and they are going after owners now that they eliminated the shops that sold the tunes and parts and now have all the owners records.

The pros listed above do show that the emissions hamper the engines performance, but then the exhaust stinks terribly bad when deleted. My last truck was deleted, ran like it was being chased by banshees, but the smell of the exhaust made me want to puke.
This sounds a bit extreme. Seizure of your property and destruction of that property?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2023 | 07:58 AM
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This sounds a bit extreme. Seizure of your property and destruction of that property?
So that dude who tried selling his Ram on Facebook found out. Either return it back to full factory, or scrap it.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2023 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BSHORT
This sounds a bit extreme. Seizure of your property and destruction of that property?
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So that dude who tried selling his Ram on Facebook found out. Either return it back to full factory, or scrap it.
Here you go....

https://www.thedrive.com/news/diesel...ions-equipment
 
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This sounds a bit extreme. Seizure of your property and destruction of that property?
Yeah, doesn't sound like something the government would do to me....
 
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Old Apr 25, 2023 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by StonedGrey
Pros: Better fuel mileage. No DEF to ad and dont have to ad more plastic jugs to our landfills. Cooler transmission and engine operating temps. Less soot in oil.
idling for long periods no longer a problem. Read the owners manual where it states to avoid idling bc of emissions equipment.
Engine will last longer.
never have an emissions system related engine code or limp mode.
no catching grass or fields on fire from extremely hot exhaust pipe during regen.

lots of pros for deleing.




Cons: illegal.
Very harmful ash from dpf regens if inhaled or breathed in will forever stay in your lungs with Long term effect unknown bc it would go against governments narrative.
Powertrain warranty gone. Once tuned its forever recorded and no going back for warranty coverage.

No delete tunes or exhaust parts available for purchase in the USA.
Pretty much nailed it. The other con is that you pretty much cannot sell the truck unless you return to stock.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2023 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ybmertz56
Just got a 2019 Powerstroke and I want to know the pros and cons of doing a DPF delete.
My first thoughts were, 'interesting first post', and ... ... ... "FED! FED! FED!"

Others have nailed it. Better for the truck, but illegal and difficult to pull off. It would put the asset at risk in terms of value and possibly possession as well as putting you legally at risk.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2023 | 07:52 PM
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Here-

https://www.diesellaptops.com/blogs/...etes-and-tunes
 
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Old Apr 26, 2023 | 08:44 AM
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It really depends on where you live. I see them for sale and constantly running around here
 
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Old Apr 26, 2023 | 10:25 AM
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It really depends on where you live. I see them for sale and constantly running around here
Until you don’t.

No doubt it’s better for the engine, but I’m not really complaining about lack of power or even poor fuel economy with my stock 22. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to know that I was prolonging the life of my engine (which is enough reason in itself), but other than that, there is no other good reason I have to want to delete…

And I know a few folks with deleted (older) diesels. It doesn’t seem like a huge issue where we are now either, but it’s coming… besides that, make sure you don’t travel elsewhere where it could be a problem.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2023 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Patriot1
Spot on article!

Originally Posted by chadstickpoindexter
Until you don’t.

No doubt it’s better for the engine, but I’m not really complaining about lack of power or even poor fuel economy with my stock 22. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to know that I was prolonging the life of my engine (which is enough reason in itself), but other than that, there is no other good reason I have to want to delete…

And I know a few folks with deleted (older) diesels. It doesn’t seem like a huge issue where we are now either, but it’s coming… besides that, make sure you don’t travel elsewhere where it could be a problem.
SCOOP there it is! Just because one gets away with blowing smoke and loud exhaust where they live, travel elsewhere and a County or State or even a LY who doesn't like the smell or the noise can pull you over and out of service your rig there on the spot. Then what are you going to do? That was my main concern with the previous truck I had. The PO had done a full delete and it was VERY apparent once you knew what to look for, and it stunk from rich diesel. Since my previous truck was a 99 with no emissions, I didn't even think about it when I bought the 12 since it had the same exhaust my old one did. It wasn't until I had the truck for a while that I realized that the emissions were missing. That news article of the Ram guy getting nailed was the final nail for me and I got rid of the truck, didn't want the potential hassle and financial hit.
 
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