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Old Apr 18, 2023 | 05:03 PM
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2000 5.4L engine miss, no CEL

Hi everyone, 2000 w/5.4L, 350K miles, developed a miss at low speed and under a load. I've had this problem 3 other times, every time it was a coil. I've used an OBD scanner (also had it scanned at Advance Auto), no code shows on the scanner, no misfire shows on the scanner, no CEL on dash.

Any thoughts on how to diagnose this? I'm figuring it's another coil, I could take it to my mechanic who I'm sure can deal with it, but money's tight as ever, so I'm trying DIY for the moment.

I could drive it and see if I can trigger the light, I hate to do that to the motor. If I drive highway speed with OD out, it runs pretty well.

as always, help is appreciated.

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Old Apr 18, 2023 | 05:37 PM
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When were the plugs last changed? I had the same problem(obvious miss with no codes) that I let go for a month to see if a code would set, it never did and new plugs fixed it.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2023 | 08:15 PM
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If you have more time than $$ maybe disconnect the connectors to a suspect coil & injector and see if you can repeat the miss. you have two coils you don't suspect? leaving six possible? if you start with the ones that are easy to reach and it drives the same as before with each one disabled could be worth continuing, if it runs really bad on each or just won't idle or drive I don't think there is any harm in it if only low speed/slight hill. double check this advice with some other sources though! the idea is that if the engine runs and then misses when you hit the hill and then you disconnect a different coil/injector and the miss isn't there you may have found your offender...
 
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Old Apr 21, 2023 | 08:45 AM
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I need to double check my service records, but I'm fairly sure it's been less than 100K. The onset of this problem was so sudden it seems to point to a coil. But I'm still driving it trying to force a code, but no luck so far.

Thank you or your response!
 
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Old Apr 21, 2023 | 08:46 AM
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Thanks! I'll give that some thought. Though that's right up there with the time/money trade
 
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Originally Posted by bengineer
I need to double check my service records, but I'm fairly sure it's been less than 100K. The onset of this problem was so sudden it seems to point to a coil. But I'm still driving it trying to force a code, but no luck so far.

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You have a bad coil, or carbon build up on a spark plug
 
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 04:22 AM
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You have a bad coil, or carbon build up on a spark plug
A failed COP initiates a DTC whereas a fouled spark plug might not be detectable without a suitable scanner.
 
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I had this happen, drove around until 2 coils failed forcing me to get it fixed, had the plugs changed too, did all coils, turned out the spark plug wells for both failed coils had collected water in them at some point, could tell by the white powder from the aluminum intake on the boots showing how deep the water had gotten, never threw a code, I drove a year like that.
 
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Forget about pulling codes when static. My mechanic uses a scanner/code reader than is used when driving.It will tell in real time what is happening. I know it is expensive/its a Snap On. But it does the job the first time,no guessing.
 
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