It's off subject, but thats the 3rd new SD i've seen that the fuel door was a different shade than the truck.

 

Maybe it isn't so off subject after all, if anything shady is going on with the lights folks are ordering and not getting.

 

So no LED taillights on lariat no matter what packages are selected?

 

don’t worry when they realize the average joe can’t afford a $1000k plus truck they’ll let you finance it for 15 years and everyone will be able to make the payments again

 

Everything so far, except for the order guide, shows no LED taillamps on Lariat, even with the Ultimate pkg.

Not just the Lariat that has lost some features, I recently learned that BLIS appears to have been removed as a standard feature on XLT. It was standard on the XLT and up, 2020-2022. It is still available as an option though, unlike the LED taillamps on the Lariat.

 

I think someone up thread was wondering was wondering what aftermarket LEDs looked like in the halogen housing.



Tail lights only, no brakes applied

Perhaps they aren't to everyone's liking, but to get factory LEDs would have cost me another $8,000 or so. These are Auxito red LEDs. Don't get the white ones. About $50 for 4 bulbs. They're bright and a pretty color of red. If your truck comes with halogen you can make do with these.

 

Another reason I’m glad I got a 22!

And I have the same red LED taillights shown above. I have been happy with them as well.

 

Quit hating,

Actually it is sad how you have to keep justifying your old 22 purchase.

EVERY 2023 thread you have a negative comment or a justification of your 22.

Just stop.

 

Not hating anything. Just stating a fact. If you’re getting a 23, I’m happy for you. If you have a different year, I’m happy for you. You’ll possibly be happy with what you have, as am I. It’s not a crime.

 

I have the same dilemma. I ordered a 2022 f250 in November. I started with an XLT that was loaded. LEDS And garage door opener, brake controller and tow package etc. I get down to the running boards. I did not want them but the wife did. Well I decided to get the retractable ones. OH “you can’t get the retractable ones with the XLT you need to go UP to the Larriat package”. I say okay. What’s that gonna cost and I agreed on “upgrade “ There was a lot that I had ordered with the XLT. 7.3 motor, locking rear axle keyless entry power mirrors come to mind.
Well the truck gets delivered in February. Exciting until I find out the things that didn’t make it. The keyless entry the garage door opener the headlights and taillights. Oh boy but I got nice backup camera (sic).
another disappointment.

 

That's terrible. This is why it's best to do your do diligence before talking with the salesman. So many don't know about the product they are selling. They should have told you that it wasn't just an upgrade to Lariat that was necessary, but an upgrade to Lariat with Ultimate package was required to get LED lights. That would have also got you keyless entry.
LED lights were not an available option on the XLT trim either.

This thing with the 2023 Lariat taillamps is bad, it's not a salesmans misinformation, but Ford putting wrong info in the actual order guide.

 

So if the official documents stated you should receive these features when you ordered the truck, wouldn’t there be some sort of recourse available. Or would accepting the truck as it is discredit that course of action? I know when I did the paperwork for my 22 there was a paper I had to sign stating that my truck was whole and that it was not missing any parts that were due to me. I’m sure though that if you turned the truck down, then the dealership would be happier to sale it as is for an even higher price point. But has anyone receiving there trucks without these features been able to document that the truck did not come complete?

 

Those Non-LED taillights bother you guys a lot more than it bothers me!

 

I’m wondering if Onboard Scales are added to a Lariat, maybe that will include LED Tail lights??

 

It seems like a lot to ask of a consumer to be able to know and understand if the truck is not built in accordance what was represented on the paperwork that guided the consumer when the purchase order was signed.

Especially something like tail lights, which don't light up until the consumer is in the truck.

When someone pays $75,000 to $100,000 for a vehicle, they kind of have a right to expect that...

1. The vehicle will be built as ordered, or
2. The consumer will be informed that the vehicle couldn't be built as ordered, or
3. The vehicle is not built as ordered, the consumer is not informed of the mis-build, but the bumper to bumper 3yr//36K warranty, which the consumer also paid for with the price of the vehicle, will cover defects in materials and workmanship, to the extent that the vehicle wasn't built with the parts indicated on the order that the consumer placed.

I ordered a 2022 Lariat for a friend, and it came with LED tail lamps. It would have never occurred to me to "check" and "verify" that the tail lamps were LED before taking delivery of the truck. That's what the money was paid for. Otherwise, where does it stop? Checking each cylinder to see that the correct material and type of piston ring is in the proper order on every piston?

If Ford has constrained the availability of LED tail lamps to fewer models of higher trim levels than the Lariat, then the order guide, and in particular the DORA that the ordering customer signs when placing the order, needs to be updated to reflect any differences between the vehicle brochure, website, marketing materials, and original order guide... versus what the truck will actually be built with.

If the change in parts availability occurs after the consumer signed the order, but before the truck is built, then it is the responsibility of the manufacturer to inform the consumer that the vehicle cannot be built in the manner in which it was presented when the order was placed. This gives the consumer the option to cancel the order, or accept the changes imposed upon the order (with a buyer's credit for the difference in price paid).

If the consumer misunderstood how the vehicle was supposed to be built, and the order that the consumer signed is consistent with how the truck arrived, with plain old 3157s out back, then the fault of the miscommunication is something of a debatable nature, and any hope for remedy for a marketing miscommunication will depend on the assertiveness of the consumer, the persuasiveness of their argument, and to whom the argument is made.

But to expect the consumer to be an expert in identifying the presence or absence of substituted components that are already attached and incorporated into the completed vehicle at the time of vehicle delivery is a bit much.

Usually those extra forms that the dealer has buyers sign pertain to nothing more was promised, like all weather floor mats, or a tonneau cover, or some other dealer installed accessory that may have been discussed, or even promised by the salesperson during the course of negotiations, but was never committed to at the time the deal was agreed upon.

I bought a computer monitor a month or so ago. It was open box, but it was inspected by the retailer as being "complete" and "excellent", so I looked it over, plugged it into a computer on display at the store, checked the pixels, everything was good, saw the bunch of different cables in the bag, the manual, and the software CD, so I bought it.

It wasn't until I brought it home and read the manual that I learned that the monitor actually comes with a remote control. I never owned a computer monitor that came with a remote control before, so it never even occurred to me to look for it in the clear bag that was resealed by the retailer as "complete". I researched what a remote control for that monitor costs ($45) and went back to the retailer to ask that they look for the remote. They didn't have it, so they credited me back $100 for my trouble. I ended up finding the same remote on eBay for $15, so all is well.

I hope that the OP finds an equitable solution, but it probably will not come without a bit of assertiveness, like me returning to the computer store, already armed with the research of what the included but missing remote costs, along with proof that the monitor I bought originally shipped with that remote, and proof that the retailer represented that the parts bag was "complete" and "excellent". I brought all of these proofs with me. What I did not bring was the monitor back, because I was going to keep the thing regardless of whether or not I got credit for the remote.

The same might be said for OP and his truck. He will no doubt keep the truck. He just wants the LED lights that he understood were supposed to come with the truck he ordered. Just because he didn't make that discovery until he got home, doesn't make him responsible for the missing part.

The only fault the consumer bears is if they didn't read or understand the guide. So if the manual to my computer monitor covered several different monitors by the same brand in the same series, and the models were differentiated by features offered at different price points, and if in that case my model of monitor never shipped with a remote, while other models of monitors that are identical to mine, but have different model numbers, came with a remote... I would be wrong to argue that my monitor should have a remote. So that was the first thing that I verified, that my monitor model number did indeed include a remote, and I was able to prove this beyond any shadow of a doubt to the store manager, which is why I received $100 credit instead of just $45. The manager understood the inconvenience of my having brought in the proof.

I would suggest to the OP to marshal your evidence before making your claim.