Banks automind
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Tuned
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Banks automind
Does anyone have any experience with the automind?
I don't really like the idea of the chips, mostly how they are taped on and can work loose in my case the truck would randomly die (possibly do to previous owner, or shop that installed it). Also, for my case I'm not overly impressed with a previous owners job of "cleaning" the contacts on the pcm.
Truck currently,
Full banks older kit, guessing this was put on when the truck was near new. Exhaust brake, turbo housing and wheel, big head actuator, exhaust, trans command and chip. Currently AIS intake, might be changed if I can't get it to flow more.
the truck runs good, has enough power for my needs. I'm just looking for options to remove the chip.
I have no interest in bigger injectors, or turbo. Truck hauls the camper up passes faster than I care to go already.
Thanks
I don't really like the idea of the chips, mostly how they are taped on and can work loose in my case the truck would randomly die (possibly do to previous owner, or shop that installed it). Also, for my case I'm not overly impressed with a previous owners job of "cleaning" the contacts on the pcm.
Truck currently,
Full banks older kit, guessing this was put on when the truck was near new. Exhaust brake, turbo housing and wheel, big head actuator, exhaust, trans command and chip. Currently AIS intake, might be changed if I can't get it to flow more.
the truck runs good, has enough power for my needs. I'm just looking for options to remove the chip.
I have no interest in bigger injectors, or turbo. Truck hauls the camper up passes faster than I care to go already.
Thanks
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No personal experience with anything Banks. Although, I get it that they make some top tier parts, but they also charge two pretty pennies.
What about deciding on a tune you like and having the PCM flashed to that tune. Jonathan at Diesel Tech Chattanooga and Jody at DP Tuner offer this service. Then you could have your tune of choice and no daughter board/chip on the PCM.
Just a thought.
What about deciding on a tune you like and having the PCM flashed to that tune. Jonathan at Diesel Tech Chattanooga and Jody at DP Tuner offer this service. Then you could have your tune of choice and no daughter board/chip on the PCM.
Just a thought.
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It already has the Trans Command installed? I’ve heard that’s not ideal with other chips since they also monkey with the trans tuning.
My original response was gonna be forget it since Banks does not tune the transmission with the chip and it requires an additional Trans Command unit to function right. I’ve tried one on my truck very briefly and the trans was way soft. But since you seem to already have half of it installed…
I may still have the SD Ottomind hanging around. Send me a PM and an offer if you want to try it. It was for a PMT2 truck.
I did have a Banks Ottomind on the previous OBS ZF5 truck and really liked it. Actually I preferred it over the 6 position TS style tuner.
My original response was gonna be forget it since Banks does not tune the transmission with the chip and it requires an additional Trans Command unit to function right. I’ve tried one on my truck very briefly and the trans was way soft. But since you seem to already have half of it installed…
I may still have the SD Ottomind hanging around. Send me a PM and an offer if you want to try it. It was for a PMT2 truck.
I did have a Banks Ottomind on the previous OBS ZF5 truck and really liked it. Actually I preferred it over the 6 position TS style tuner.
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I tried a Trans Command on my 1995 460 F250. It would SLAM 2nd to 3rd gear. I took it off after a couple of months. It was like it forgot to unlock the torque converter during the shift.
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Thanks everyone for the input, I will look into the suggestions.
from what I understand I will need to bypass or remove the trans command if using anything other than the banks chip, I think this applies to the automind also. I'm sure there are other things that would need to come out.
The only bad thing I would say about the banks stuff is it has wires all over the place. But for such an old aftermarket system it all still works, even after shorting out from no grommet installed.
I've never used it, but I hear their customer service is great so I might call and see what they say about removal.
from what I understand I will need to bypass or remove the trans command if using anything other than the banks chip, I think this applies to the automind also. I'm sure there are other things that would need to come out.
The only bad thing I would say about the banks stuff is it has wires all over the place. But for such an old aftermarket system it all still works, even after shorting out from no grommet installed.
I've never used it, but I hear their customer service is great so I might call and see what they say about removal.
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My understanding is the Banks Ottomind is made to go with the Banks Trans Command. Ottomind for the engine tuning and the Trans Command for the trans tuning. Call them to make sure but I think the chip I have would pair with trans tuning already on your truck.
I’ve also read that the Trans Command isn’t as easy to remove as just unplugging it. There are wires repinnined during the install. Again, take my thoughts lightly and confirm though.
I’ve also read that the Trans Command isn’t as easy to remove as just unplugging it. There are wires repinnined during the install. Again, take my thoughts lightly and confirm though.
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Originally Posted by Kwikkordead;[url=#
20793235]I must have had a different version. What I had was you unplug the umbilical going to the transmission and then plug it into one end of the Transcommand, then plug the other pigtail into the transmission plug. But that was a very long time ago now, so my memory may not be serving me perfectly on this.
The Banks tuner I used in the old 96 model worked really well but that truck was a stick.
The Banks controller I may have on hand was only very briefly tried with my current truck. I don’t have the Transcommand and felt like the shifts were way too soft with the added power.
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According to banks, the automind can be loaded without removing the trans command.
right now the price is 430 ish
I am mostly concerned with the pcm connection, some of the pins are copper colored some are silver, some are both. Would rather not send it out for repair if I can flash the pcm with a handheld.
Overall my goal is just reliability, and just enough power to not worry about it.
Open to thoughts, still considering other tuners.
right now the price is 430 ish
I am mostly concerned with the pcm connection, some of the pins are copper colored some are silver, some are both. Would rather not send it out for repair if I can flash the pcm with a handheld.
Overall my goal is just reliability, and just enough power to not worry about it.
Open to thoughts, still considering other tuners.
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Originally Posted by S-squatch;[url=tel:20794607
20794607[/url]]Also the automind has 3 tunes in it. I think it's 50, 80,100 or something like that.
I am not sure what level of tune is currently in the banks chip I have, so not sure what level I would want.
I am not sure what level of tune is currently in the banks chip I have, so not sure what level I would want.
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No worries, thanks for the offer. I probably wasn't very clear.
I went ahead with ordering it.
There are 4 tune options loaded in the unit, I should have wrote it down but it was something like 50, 72?, 90, 110?The guy on the phone recommended a Riffraff ocr overboost regulator any thoughts on that?
Also, the trans command will work with the tuner but it will also boost line pressure on top of the automind tuner,. He said it won't hurt anything or fight the program but I might want to remove it so the shifts aren't too firm.
I went ahead with ordering it.
There are 4 tune options loaded in the unit, I should have wrote it down but it was something like 50, 72?, 90, 110?The guy on the phone recommended a Riffraff ocr overboost regulator any thoughts on that?
Also, the trans command will work with the tuner but it will also boost line pressure on top of the automind tuner,. He said it won't hurt anything or fight the program but I might want to remove it so the shifts aren't too firm.
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No worries, thanks for the offer. I probably wasn't very clear.
I went ahead with ordering it.
There are 4 tune options loaded in the unit, I should have wrote it down but it was something like 50, 72?, 90, 110?The guy on the phone recommended a Riffraff ocr overboost regulator any thoughts on that?
Also, the trans command will work with the tuner but it will also boost line pressure on top of the automind tuner,. He said it won't hurt anything or fight the program but I might want to remove it so the shifts aren't too firm.
I went ahead with ordering it.
There are 4 tune options loaded in the unit, I should have wrote it down but it was something like 50, 72?, 90, 110?The guy on the phone recommended a Riffraff ocr overboost regulator any thoughts on that?
Also, the trans command will work with the tuner but it will also boost line pressure on top of the automind tuner,. He said it won't hurt anything or fight the program but I might want to remove it so the shifts aren't too firm.