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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 02:59 PM
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I find it hard to believe with all the electronic crap thats already added to the truck that's hit and miss if it works properly that the scale will be any different. What if different shocks are added or a level kit, lift kit, or airbags is it still accurate 🤔. Just another gimmick for Mr. Mom.

You know what's accurate.....a truck scale.

 
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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by twobelugas
Do the trucks that come with the built in scale show any stats in the instrument panel or infotainment screen like rear axle weight or remaining available payload in pounds? with trucks that have payload ranging from low 2000s to 7000+lb the dots would have a lot of range in each dot.
This video shows/ explains it some.


Or this one.

 
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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
This article (a few paragraphs in) about the F-150 says that none of the info will be used for warranty purposes. https://www.thecarconnection.com/new...021-ford-f-150

If true, I would expect the same to apply to the Super Duty.
That article can claim anything it wants. Even though a Ford engineer was "quoted" as saying it won't be used for warranty purposes, there's nothing "official" from Ford to say one way or another. It's all speculation.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CheeseheadFord
That article can claim anything it wants. Even though a Ford engineer was "quoted" as saying it won't be used for warranty purposes, there's nothing "official" from Ford to say one way or another. It's all speculation.
It's just information, you do as you please with it. I'm not expecting Ford to come out with an "official" document stating what will and will not be used for warranty denial purposes. I'm also very aware that what one employee of FoMoCo says isn't necessarily the gospel. I've seen quite a bit of misinformation come out of Ford in the way of media releases, spec guides, owners manuals and verbal statements by their employees. I'm from the point of view that if the truck is actually overloaded to the point of breaking parts, Ford doesn't need this data to deny warranty, they can just deny it.

 
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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by scraprat
Just another gimmick for Mr. Mom.
Bingo. Same thing with the trailer-pro backup thing, 360 cameras, etc...all in an effort to make it easier for those who have no business behind the wheel of a big truck, to get behind the wheel of a big truck and tow with it. Just who I want on the highway next to me. Oh, and go ahead and throw in a flat screen TV on the dash to further distract them....
 
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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 07:39 PM
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If Ford were using it to spy don't you think it would be on all trim levels not just the platinum and Limited?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by leadmic
If Ford were using it to spy don't you think it would be on all trim levels not just the platinum and Limited?
The people who use it for commercial purpose don't need it, apparently, even though they are the ones with the most regulatory oversight.

Makes one think.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
Bingo. Same thing with the trailer-pro backup thing, 360 cameras, etc...all in an effort to make it easier for those who have no business behind the wheel of a big truck, to get behind the wheel of a big truck and tow with it. Just who I want on the highway next to me. Oh, and go ahead and throw in a flat screen TV on the dash to further distract them....
eh, I'm cool with them offering it on the higher trims, as long as they keep it out of the XL trim, everyone lives.

The endless arms race of driver assists is just pure comedy for those of us who somehow get by with just mirrors and a simple back up camera and no towing or backing assists, and somehow still know where our corners and wheels are. I knew things were too far gone when they offered that little back up steering wheel on F series trucks.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
Bingo. Same thing with the trailer-pro backup thing, 360 cameras, etc...all in an effort to make it easier for those who have no business behind the wheel of a big truck, to get behind the wheel of a big truck and tow with it. Just who I want on the highway next to me. Oh, and go ahead and throw in a flat screen TV on the dash to further distract them....

or,......you are very well experienced in backing up trailers and love technology to make things easier and more enjoyable. I used the pro trailer assist today for the first time and man I didn't have to get and out of the truck 3 times. Usually you get out 3 times after you think you get under the ball and the truck rocks forward or backwards even after you set the emergency break.

''This thing took over, no brake no steering nothing and put me right under the ball of the trailer, crazy.

Dont fight technology or it will leave you behind,. This coming from someone who has driven F250's since 1999. I am 55 years old.

Heck I still play Xbox and love it.
 
Old Mar 21, 2023 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by srkr
or,......you are very well experienced in backing up trailers and love technology to make things easier and more enjoyable. I used the pro trailer assist today for the first time and man I didn't have to get and out of the truck 3 times. Usually you get out 3 times after you think you get under the ball and the truck rocks forward or backwards even after you set the emergency break.
I don't know what year F series you have but since 2017 or so they all come with a back up camera and most of the time I still just use my mirrors and turning my head once in a while.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by twobelugas
I don't know what year F series you have but since 2017 or so they all come with a back up camera...
still easier than using the screen.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 08:38 PM
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Light duty trucks are an insanely competitive segment, and ALL new features regardless of how useful one may perceive them to be in their own usage are designed to keep them at the top of that segment. Do we NEED any of these things besides manual brakes and a 3 speed? Not usually. Do we need 50 cameras or built in scales? No. But they do make some jobs easier, and if Ford doesn't offer it, someone else will and they will lose market share. I know there's market for a bare bones XL rig with no fluff, and luckily that's available too. One can spin conspiracy theories all day, but the simple answer is that all these features are designed to preserve and increase market share, end of story. Maybe this does occasionally enable someone who isn't as experienced, and so what. Make life easier on them AND those of us with more practice too; we all gotta start somewhere.

That said, not saying they couldn't be used for keeping tabs on the one in a thousand guy who uses his rig hard and will overload it at some point, and probably will in the future. Maybe so. But it's likely not worth the cost to start out that way.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 10:52 PM
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Dont need it.

Dont want it

Ordered my 450 without it.

Anyone that thinks Ford will pass on the opportunity to void out your warranty without lifting a finger for something YOU REALLY DID WRONG on the road while they're looking for ways to stop bleeding out MULTIPLE BILLIONS annually in WARRANTY CLAIMS for stuff THEY REALLY DID WRONG in the factory is sorely mistaken.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2023 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by OverheadCram
Do you buy less truck than you need and intend to always overload it?
Short answer; yes.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2023 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by wabba
Do we need 50 cameras or built in scales?
I only found four. Where do I look for the others?!
 
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