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Could be pats, I've had some tunes in the past that would not play nice if the pats module was connected.
Did you check the pats enable/disable option?
First time I put my hydra in worked great for a day, then problems. I pulled it, cleaned up the contact points on PCM thoroughly and has been good since. Sounds like you need to pull it. Second time I used a dental pick between the contacts on the board. It's not obvious how much it takes and I was nervous about over doing it and fudging the contacts.
Since you have an Excursion, sometimes loading the Hydra files is not as easy as installing a simple relay, even if you are using the USB cable and leaving the chip in/on the PCM.
I will quote our friend Cody below in an effort to see if this is your issue, follow his instructions and the instructions in the video.
Originally Posted by cleatus12r
As for the PATS issue, 1023 Diesel made a good video explaining all about it. STARTS AT 7:30 in video
1) the Tuner worked just fine when I drove home, an hour and 15 minutes
2) Hydra does NOT tell you a damn thing about the necessary Procedure to Reprogram the chip.
3) when I drove home, it was on position 06 and I did not think that part through.
4) Reprogrammed it 3 times, without changing the Switch Setting.
No Start, every time.
Frustrated, I watched YouTube all night and fell asleep, but my brain was clicking on this problem. As my Avocation has been in Electronics since 1958, and Digital stuff since 1968, surely I could figure this out.
Lunch time: ate a sandwich, and kept mulling on it.
Decided to turn KEY ON, and watch the Hydra Switch.
It rolls through a bunch of Hex numbers and settled on 06 display.
Ah ha!
The new program in 06 is not the same as it was when I drove home.
I set the switch back to 00 like it came from the factory, and 00 is STOCK ford programming. Good for Diagnostics, etc
Powered laptop down to make sure the USB connection is closed Properly.
Disconnect USB cord.
Key ON, WTS goes away, click Varoom !!!
I am going to email Hydra a nasty letter, that they need to tell folks about how to Reprogram the chip.
Went for a test drive around our Rural 1 mile square roads.
My Favorite setting is Fuel Sipper,
the throttle control and transmission shifts feel like my '01 K1500 4x4 Suburban.
60hp Daily Driver is mildly aggressive, harder and firmer shifts, set throttle at 2500 RPM and it lags down a bit between each shift... will make a very good metro driver.
80hp Daily Driver is more aggressive but still no smoke.
80hp Performance is like I was on the 1/8th mile Drag Strip and poured out the coal smoke.
- - - - won't be using that, but just had to give it a try
it attacked 2500 RPM and never glanced back, was at 65 mph by the time I reached the next Property Line, about 1/8 mile or more.
I am very pleased with my investment... - -
Next stop, AEM water/alcohol injection for pulling over the mountain passes...
actually, I probably won't need it, as I am in no hurry to get anywhere.
BUT, my son, WANTS IT
watched the video, at one point, I clicked on the PATS at the bottom and set to PATS
programmed it, still No Start.
set switch to 00 and it starts and goes thru the Tunes just fine now.
my only question is, is there a real difference in the tunes, if it works now, and IF I go to the trouble of forcing each Tune to PATS.
the thing I don't like about saving each individual tune like they did, it does not save the Name or position number.
I think I would save the tune, then rename it to Pos-1 Whisper mode
and so forth. then if it is needed again, it will be there.
The only thing id say about this, is dont put whisper in slot 1. I know you used it as an example, however, i was told from the gentleman who wrote my tunes, that 00 is stock, and 01 is your base tune, and everything builds, from that tune. Therefore, it needs to be your base, driving tune, not, like i did, high idle. Or another non driving tune. And i will say that since i flipped 01 to daily driver, and put high idle in slot 02, i have fewer codes. Pretty sure my overboost, and hpop are my code causes, at this point, anyway.
The only thing id say about this, is dont put whisper in slot 1. I know you used it as an example, however, i was told from the gentleman who wrote my tunes, that 00 is stock, and 01 is your base tune, and everything builds, from that tune. Therefore, it needs to be your base, driving tune, not, like i did, high idle. Or another non driving tune. And i will say that since i flipped 01 to daily driver, and put high idle in slot 02, i have fewer codes. Pretty sure my overboost, and hpop are my code causes, at this point, anyway.
Thank you for that learned moment.
why does Hydra not explain that in ?Depth?
I will reprogram it tomorrow as you suggest, plus explicitly make each program PATS compatible.
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