Stage 1 Power
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Joined: Jan 2008
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From: Kamloops, BC. Canada
I’ve never really understood for our 7.3 injectors rated at stages like 1s, 1.5, etc. When I assemble my trucks I wanna have an idea of how many CC’s of output and nozzle size over stock nozzles. I feel the “Stage” jectors, same with turbos is dumbing down buyers and misleading folks. At the end of the day you (a consumer) should be able to plan prior to buying what you can reasonably expect. I view injectors etc as just individual prices of a system, that if assembled in the correct way will provide for what you’re trying to achieve. Hope that makes sense.
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More Turbo
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From: Norcal
Understood.
I was referring to 160/0 or 160/30 injectors (on the fence between the 2) with hydra and a kc300x 63/70 turbo. Stock fuel and stock hpop. I know the fuel and hpop are the limiting factors. I was hoping for at least 350 total horsepower but 1023 is saying I will only get 220 total at the rear wheels with the new injectors, turbo and hydra.
I was referring to 160/0 or 160/30 injectors (on the fence between the 2) with hydra and a kc300x 63/70 turbo. Stock fuel and stock hpop. I know the fuel and hpop are the limiting factors. I was hoping for at least 350 total horsepower but 1023 is saying I will only get 220 total at the rear wheels with the new injectors, turbo and hydra.
Hotshot
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From: evansville in
Understood.
I was referring to 160/0 or 160/30 injectors (on the fence between the 2) with hydra and a kc300x 63/70 turbo. Stock fuel and stock hpop. I know the fuel and hpop are the limiting factors. I was hoping for at least 350 total horsepower but 1023 is saying I will only get 220 total at the rear wheels with the new injectors, turbo and hydra.
I was referring to 160/0 or 160/30 injectors (on the fence between the 2) with hydra and a kc300x 63/70 turbo. Stock fuel and stock hpop. I know the fuel and hpop are the limiting factors. I was hoping for at least 350 total horsepower but 1023 is saying I will only get 220 total at the rear wheels with the new injectors, turbo and hydra.
But I also would never run stock hpop or fuel pump ...even my stock injectors ran better on those 2 mods.
Logistics Pro
Joined: Mar 2007
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From: knoxville, tn
My truck, bone stock, put 207 to the wheels. 1023 was incorrect. Maybe they were sleepy or something.
Rosewood or Bitterroot for injectors. The inconsistency from others is not worth the $$$ and headache.
Rosewood or Bitterroot for injectors. The inconsistency from others is not worth the $$$ and headache.
Hotshot
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From: evansville in
I would like to see that! I did 200 and my junk made 30 psi on stock injectors. I would think a 100% stock 7.3 would be 150 or so at the tires.
Laughing Gas
Joined: Sep 2019
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From: Arkansas
I dont know if their numbers are/were wrong or not, but I 100% agree on HPOP and efuel. Both great mods, even with stock injectors and tuning.
Hotshot
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From: Las Cruces New Mexico
^ This check my signature, makes for a fun ride with out the worries of blowing **** up or making the truck unreliable, I give hell to my truck, check my sig pic I was towing 15k worth of trailer and material and did WOT runs from a dead stop just to feel some POWA, although I couldn't keep the rear wheels from spinning even with some tongue weight on it.
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Joined: Mar 2007
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From: knoxville, tn
Op: figure out what you want out of the truck, then build to that standard. 160s can make decent power without having to go down deep in the rabbit hole but if you want more powa, the sky is the limit, well maybe your wallet is the limit.
Lead Driver
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From: North Texas
I am with Fordman, do e-fuel and a bigger HPOP first. My old HPOP fell off with a hot tune on 90cc sticks. It holding 2600psi or whatever is fine for stock tune with stock injectors.
170-180rw is about what these do stock from what I have seen. Figure the ZF is a hair more efficient. Downpipe is good for honest 20rw.
170-180rw is about what these do stock from what I have seen. Figure the ZF is a hair more efficient. Downpipe is good for honest 20rw.
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From: Norcal
I could only get 2800 from my hpop while WOT on the freeway. I planned on hpop and e fuel next. It's interesting that u guys think they should be first, thinking I would have better results with those 2 upgrades rather the injectors and turbo. I don't have a hydra, I have the old Edge Gameboy programmer. So regardless I need the hydra though and trash the Gameboy. Everyone is definitely steering me away from Fullforce injectors.
Hotshot
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From: evansville in
I could only get 2800 from my hpop while WOT on the freeway. I planned on hpop and e fuel next. It's interesting that u guys think they should be first, thinking I would have better results with those 2 upgrades rather the injectors and turbo. I don't have a hydra, I have the old Edge Gameboy programmer. So regardless I need the hydra though and trash the Gameboy. Everyone is definitely steering me away from Fullforce injectors.
Laughing Gas
Joined: Apr 2016
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From: Virginia
Just my opinion, but there's probably a reason Ford upgraded to e-fuel, slightly larger hpop, and added an intercooler on the super duty trucks. I'd look into doing those mods (as others have mentioned) before you throw more fuel at it.
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From: Norcal
Ok. I will start looking at those mods and price them out. As of now, 3k is my budget. It seems the hpop, e-fuel and hydra chip will be under the 3k with some left over to play with. One thing I was thinking about was, my truck has 260k on it so the injectors are ready for replacement anyways.
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Joined: Mar 2007
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From: knoxville, tn
It all depends on how it was treated. The supporting mods will definitely improve the overall health of the truck. Then when you install injectors, you can use them to their full potential.