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Old Feb 25, 2023 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveyMac
Im going with the DCR as its available for the 20-23 third Gen 6.7, Disaster Prevention kits wont be need or work with the new Punps.
It doesn't look like the DCR's are quite ready for the 20+ models... and the 2011-2019 MY's aren't expected to drop until "sometime during Q2, 2023" and the preorders are with the understanding that an official ship date has not yet been determined.

Currently, the Ford 6.7L CP4 to DCR Pump Conversion will fit 2011-2019 F250-F750 trucks, with future plans for 2020+ compatibility.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2023 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveyMac
Im going with the DCR as its available for the 20-23 third Gen 6.7, Disaster Prevention kits wont be need or work with the new Punps.
So you mean you are going to proactively replace the CP4 with the DCR, when it becomes available?

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Interesting that the lines and bracket are another $70.

https://www.accuratediesel.com/6-7l-...r-upgrade.html

Ordered it this morning. Once installed I will feel 100% protected in case that CP4 pukes. I take good care with fueling so if it goes, it won't be from lack of prevention.
I have the Gen 2.1 filter head/bracket (no lines -- works with lines on Gen 2 kit) as it was half price before the end of the year (2022). I see the SNAPP filters can now be bought online. Apparently before there were production issues with the plastic cracking so I figured ordering the Donaldson filter set up was cheap insurance in case SNAPP filters were hard to find due to the crazy supply chain problems we've been seeing.

I feel the same about my truck and fuel.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2023 | 02:28 PM
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When I got in the market for a Super Duty, the 6.7 CP4 issue weighed heavily on my mind as that is a HUGE expense when it failed. When I finally bought one, the first thing I did was install the SPE. It gave me the peace of mind I needed. Anything else on the engine is cakewalk for me, the fuel system is one item I do not want to mess with.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2023 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by acdii
When I got in the market for a Super Duty, the 6.7 CP4 issue weighed heavily on my mind as that is a HUGE expense when it failed. When I finally bought one, the first thing I did was install the SPE. It gave me the peace of mind I needed. Anything else on the engine is cakewalk for me, the fuel system is one item I do not want to mess with.
I agree... replacing the HPFP is one thing but replacing all the other components in the fuel system is another, plus labor. $$$
 
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Old Mar 14, 2023 | 08:34 PM
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OK, haven't been on in a while but I'm now at 110,000 miles and thinking about CP4 failure.Two questions, how many of these pumps are blowing up and taking down the fuel system, how big is the problem. Am I reading this right, I want the S&S DPK 2.1 and I can install it myself in 4 hours or so. Well, I'm 80 now so maybe 6 hours for me.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2023 | 08:01 AM
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OK, haven't been on in a while but I'm now at 110,000 miles and thinking about CP4 failure.Two questions, how many of these pumps are blowing up and taking down the fuel system, how big is the problem. Am I reading this right, I want the S&S DPK 2.1 and I can install it myself in 4 hours or so. Well, I'm 80 now so maybe 6 hours for me.
The only people who know how often the CP4 is failing on the 6.7 PSD is Ford and Bosch. You will find Jimmy Hoffa in your couch cushions before either give up that number. It is a thing but how "big" of a thing it is, is all conjecture. GM and dodge/ram jumped from the CP4, however that might be more reflective of their fuel system. GM famously didn't run a low pressure lift pump until 2016 I believe which is after they dumped the CP4. Dodge has always had a lift pump but has a long history having issues with them, see the 98.5-02 VP44 trucks and the 03-04.5 CR's as examples. Also I believe the dodge lift pump was at a lower pressure than the Ford set up. Most people do this mod under the cheap insurance mantra.

I don't have one now, but will probably do one in the future. Just cause I would be kicking myself if my HPFP takes a dive and I could have done something about it.

Lastly, more power to you doing this at 80!
 
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Old Mar 15, 2023 | 09:44 AM
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You see various numbers for the failures. I can't point to a source and say this one is an authority. But the less than 1% seems to come up more often for a pure part failure. That ignores the failures from putting DEF or Gas into your fuel tank.
I've owned four 6..7L trucks. 2011 that I put 150,000 miles, 2015 that I put 100,000 miles on, a 2017 that I ran 92,000 miles and the fellow I sold it too, now has 140,000 miles on it and my current 2020 with 77,000 miles. No problem with the HPFP on any 0f these trucks.
I also know of others. My plumber that I use, has 220,000 miles on his 2015 and it is still all original. And you see the Hot shot drivers on internet with trucks in the 300,000 to 500,000 miles with original pumps.

I've taken the belief. You buy good fuel, drain your fuel filter on a regular basis. Change fuel filters every over oil change with real motorcraft filters. If I had spent money on every truck I've owned for disaster kits, I would have paid more than just doing the full repair. So Maybe in a sense, I'm self insuring for a disaster that my truck insurance may or may not cover.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2023 | 01:07 PM
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Actual pump giving out because of a defect, very low. Pump going out because of contamination, very high. Chances of your pump failing, Very low provided you use good fuel and a lubricant. Even without the lubricant, still very low. The pumps do not like water, and especially hate DEF. The biggest issue is lack of separation between the fuel pump crankcase and the pump heads. It allows debris from the crankcase to get into the HP fuel rails and injectors. If Ford had designed in the DPK from the start, the pump issue would not be as scary as it seems and not too big of a deal like it is. Foresight on Fords part would have prevented Reputation that it has.
 
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Thanks guys

Not sure yet but these answers are helpful. No def getting in my fuel. Third diesel super duty so not likely to put gas in. Every gallon of fuel ever has Diesel Kleen added. Fuel filters at 15,000 since new so I guess I’m doing what I can. The only other move would be the kit. Thanks for the help.
 
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