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Old Feb 2, 2018 | 12:08 PM
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Did you notice that today I was quoted from my original post from November of 2003? It's more than 14 years old.

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Old May 24, 2018 | 04:43 PM
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Hello don't want to look stupid but I've got a 1995 5.8 out of a f150 I want a cam, lifters and what not so can I get a roller cam and lifters and just install it or do I need to get something special
 
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Old May 24, 2018 | 04:43 PM
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Hello don't want to look stupid but I've got a 1995 5.8 out of a f150 I want a cam, lifters and what not so can I get a roller cam and lifters and just install it or do I need to get something special
 
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Old May 24, 2018 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus Ochoa
Hello don't want to look stupid but I've got a 1995 5.8 out of a f150 I want a cam, lifters and what not so can I get a roller cam and lifters and just install it or do I need to get something special
Depends which block you have. If you have the newer F4TE block it's easier. If you have an older block you would have to get a retrofit kit. Do you know the engineering number on the block?
 
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Old May 24, 2018 | 06:21 PM
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Start first by determining that there is F4TE stamped on the block, look near your starter. Later
This is where you will find the number without having to open anything out.
 
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Old May 24, 2018 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus Ochoa
Hello don't want to look stupid but I've got a 1995 5.8 out of a f150 I want a cam, lifters and what not so can I get a roller cam and lifters and just install it or do I need to get something special
Depends on what you're going to do with this. The factory roller is really what's called an RV type grind (256/266 advertised duration, .422/.445 lift, 116 LSA) run it with 1.7 rockers and the lift goes .030 higher. Are you building an EFI motor or carbed ? How mild or wild ? The factory roller lifters can be reused on another cam. But this also depends on how wild a cam you're looking for and your rpm expectations, the stock rollers are good to about 5500 rpms.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2018 | 12:48 PM
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The roller capable blocks with stock equipment are F4TE, F5TE, F6TE, and F7TE. The F stands for 90’s so F4 is 94, F5 is 95. So, they made them from 94-97 that are capable of being a roller with the factory parts. I’m not sure that all were roller though, but they were all roller capable.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2018 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan_Johnston
The roller capable blocks with stock equipment are F4TE, F5TE, F6TE, and F7TE. The F stands for 90’s so F4 is 94, F5 is 95. So, they made them from 94-97 that are capable of being a roller with the factory parts. I’m not sure that all were roller though, but they were all roller capable.
Only one roller 351W block and that was the F4TE casting. There were no others. Same casting was used from late 93 to sometime in 97 model year
 
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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 07:21 PM
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351W roller block casting numbers

I wonder if the service blocks had other casting codes on them?
When I was searching for a roller engine about 15 years ago with no luck, I contacted Ford and was told that the blocks were available. I didn't buy one however. Now I am very curious if those would have had a different casting alphanumeric code, because such was common practice at Ford.
 

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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 07:38 PM
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I've never heard of any others. With only a three year run, I doubt there were others. The only others would have been those for Ford Racing. The block in my 96 E150 is an F4TE, as was the 97 engine I pulled from a 97 F250.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by baddad457
Only one roller 351W block and that was the F4TE casting. There were no others. Same casting was used from late 93 to sometime in 97 model year
Not true. The 1995 F-250/F-350 engines were stamped F5TE, the 96 F6TE, and 97 F7TE. F4TE means 1994 truck engine. Just like Ford has since the 50’s, every year is stamped different. Every year typically has slight modifications too that sometimes are very hard to spot the change, but in the 40’s they would be stamped A7?? for a 1947 engine. B2?? Would be a 1952 engine. C6?? Would be a 1966. D0?? is a 1970, E5?? is a 1985, and so on. They only change head castings every so often, so heads like E7TE were basically a 1987 truck head, but the way they were designed they worked good enough for trucks and cars and Ford was planning on phasing out the old small blocks so there weren’t a lot of head options from 87 on, so you might have a ‘97 351 Windsor with E7 heads, but I guarantee you that unless Ford got too lazy to change the stamp from ‘94 on up every year the block stamp changes. It did every year until ‘94, that I’m sure of, my 1992 F-250 has a 351 Windsor stamped F2TE on the side, my truck before that was an ‘89 302 stamped E9TE. I had an ‘88 GT Mustang 302 with a stamp of E8??. I had a ‘76 F-250 with a 390 stamped D6TE. My uncle has a ‘65 Galaxie 500 with a 352 stamped C5ME. Plus I have a Ford parts interchange book to cross reference which parts are interchangeable with which parts and it shows block #’s of F5TE, F6TE, and F7TE. Pretty sure under heads it has the ‘93 Mustang Cobra heads listed as F3TE head casting. I’m pretty sure that’s a requirement anytime a slight modification is made, even if it’s just the molecular composition of the parts metals, that the date stamp has to be changed, partly for recalls and such. First of all if the casting number doesn’t match what is supposed to be in the vehicle then it would void the factory warranty. Second different years had slightly different compression ratios, so a combo of the block stamp and the VIN engine code tells them what is there, if one doesn’t match then the engine is not factory. So, basically if every 351 Windsor from ‘94 to ‘97 we’re all stamped F4TE, then there would be no way to tell what year the engine actually was, so stuff like exact factory compression and other stuff that might have been adjusted a bit from one engine to another would be a lot harder to pin down. Now, if there were leftover F4TE’s when they started making ‘95’s then there were probably a lot of early ‘95’s that had F4TE engines, but when they ran out of extra F4’s then they would’ve started making F5TE’s. I know my Ford parts interchange book wouldn’t show F5TE’s, F6TE’s, and F7TE’s if Ford didn’t stamp any blocks with those casting #’s, and if all 351’s from 94-97 were all F4TE’s then that would be the first engine that Ford didn’t change the casting #’s on because it’s literally part of the manufacture date code. Just suffice to say, no matter the stamp on it, if it’s a 351 Windsor block that is stamped F4TE or newer, then it is roller capable, but I don’t think all of them were roller cam. Now they may have all had roller rockers, but the only way to know if they were roller cam was to pop off the intake and look, there would be drilled and bolted spots in the lifter valley for the extra pieces that go with the roller cam, plus the lifters would obviously be rollers and have shorter push rods than a 351 Windsor that has flat tappet lifters, because the roller wheel makes the lifters taller, which also means you can tell if a block is roller capable just by looking at the lifter bores because they will be about 1/2” taller than a non roller block to keep the lifters from rolling sideways at the top of their travel. But yea, according to Ford’s block stamping system and my parts interchange catalogue there very much are F5-F7TE 351 Windsor roller cam capable blocks, which just means 1995-1997 is the years they were cast.
 
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I am interested to see pictures of the F5TE etc. and/or later service blocks, showing the casting numbers.
 
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Originally Posted by Dan_Johnston


Not true. The 1995 F-250/F-350 engines were stamped F5TE, the 96 F6TE, and 97 F7TE. F4TE means 1994 truck engine. Just like Ford has since the 50’s, every year is stamped different. Every year typically has slight modifications too that sometimes are very hard to spot the change, but in the 40’s they would be stamped A7?? for a 1947 engine. B2?? Would be a 1952 engine. C6?? Would be a 1966. D0?? is a 1970, E5?? is a 1985, and so on. They only change head castings every so often, so heads like E7TE were basically a 1987 truck head, but the way they were designed they worked good enough for trucks and cars and Ford was planning on phasing out the old small blocks so there weren’t a lot of head options from 87 on, so you might have a ‘97 351 Windsor with E7 heads, but I guarantee you that unless Ford got too lazy to change the stamp from ‘94 on up every year the block stamp changes. It did every year until ‘94, that I’m sure of, my 1992 F-250 has a 351 Windsor stamped F2TE on the side, my truck before that was an ‘89 302 stamped E9TE. I had an ‘88 GT Mustang 302 with a stamp of E8??. I had a ‘76 F-250 with a 390 stamped D6TE. My uncle has a ‘65 Galaxie 500 with a 352 stamped C5ME. Plus I have a Ford parts interchange book to cross reference which parts are interchangeable with which parts and it shows block #’s of F5TE, F6TE, and F7TE. Pretty sure under heads it has the ‘93 Mustang Cobra heads listed as F3TE head casting. I’m pretty sure that’s a requirement anytime a slight modification is made, even if it’s just the molecular composition of the parts metals, that the date stamp has to be changed, partly for recalls and such. First of all if the casting number doesn’t match what is supposed to be in the vehicle then it would void the factory warranty. Second different years had slightly different compression ratios, so a combo of the block stamp and the VIN engine code tells them what is there, if one doesn’t match then the engine is not factory. So, basically if every 351 Windsor from ‘94 to ‘97 we’re all stamped F4TE, then there would be no way to tell what year the engine actually was, so stuff like exact factory compression and other stuff that might have been adjusted a bit from one engine to another would be a lot harder to pin down. Now, if there were leftover F4TE’s when they started making ‘95’s then there were probably a lot of early ‘95’s that had F4TE engines, but when they ran out of extra F4’s then they would’ve started making F5TE’s. I know my Ford parts interchange book wouldn’t show F5TE’s, F6TE’s, and F7TE’s if Ford didn’t stamp any blocks with those casting #’s, and if all 351’s from 94-97 were all F4TE’s then that would be the first engine that Ford didn’t change the casting #’s on because it’s literally part of the manufacture date code. Just suffice to say, no matter the stamp on it, if it’s a 351 Windsor block that is stamped F4TE or newer, then it is roller capable, but I don’t think all of them were roller cam. Now they may have all had roller rockers, but the only way to know if they were roller cam was to pop off the intake and look, there would be drilled and bolted spots in the lifter valley for the extra pieces that go with the roller cam, plus the lifters would obviously be rollers and have shorter push rods than a 351 Windsor that has flat tappet lifters, because the roller wheel makes the lifters taller, which also means you can tell if a block is roller capable just by looking at the lifter bores because they will be about 1/2” taller than a non roller block to keep the lifters from rolling sideways at the top of their travel. But yea, according to Ford’s block stamping system and my parts interchange catalogue there very much are F5-F7TE 351 Windsor roller cam capable blocks, which just means 1995-1997 is the years they were cast.
You haven't a clue as to what you're talking about here. Just about everything you've posted here is BS. And NONE of the engines in Fords lineup had roller rockers, other than the Cobra 5.0's. And none of the blocks were "stamped". The Engineering numbers were cast into the blocks not stamped. As for telling what year an engine actually is, there's a decal stuck to one valve cover that has that information. Before the decal, there was a small metal Id tag bolted to the carburetor with that info. You're trying to come off as knowing what you're talking about but you've made so many glaring mistakes here that it's all laughable and impossible to try to refute everything you've said. I'd like you to explain the 68 390 I pulled from a 68 Gal that had no engineering numbers ? Ooops!!!! And the one I pulled from my 68 Merc that too didn't have numbers. The others you listed in your family history are simple coincidences you ran across and thus made an erroneous assumption about ALL Ford engineering numbers.
 
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I am interested to see pictures of the F5TE etc. and/or later service blocks, showing the casting numbers.
Me too !!
 
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 09:07 PM
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Never seen an F5TE block and I have been through atleast 1000 of the roller winsors.
 
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