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Old Feb 10, 2023 | 08:46 AM
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Battery voltage issues / question

So something weird is going on. Maybe one of you can help me figure out what. I've got all these codes and if I try to clear them out they won't go away or at least they come right back. I've checked the battery voltage and my batteries are reading low (around 12.3-12.4 volts after sitting overnight) but it seems to crank strong (both batteries were new about a year ago). After starting, the voltage drops to about 12.2 volts for maybe 30 seconds or so then steadily rises to just over 14 volts while at idle. Does that sound normal?


 
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Old Feb 10, 2023 | 09:07 AM
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SunBun,
Your details appear normal, not sure how/why all those codes showed up. Suggest you disconnect both batteries to delete the codes then see what shows. Overnight battery voltage of 12.+ volts is normal and the charging rate of 14 volts indicates alternator is charging. Make sure battery terminals are clean and tight.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2023 | 09:12 AM
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Perhaps a poor connection in the charge circuit, or tired wiring. I'm starting to see low voltage at the tow package plug on my 550 when I plug in the trailer. 14.25 at the alternator and batteries, but the trailer only see 13.5 or 6 at best and when the trailer battery is low, 13.1. Two year old Vilano 5th wheel. Seen it before on other brands of vehicles, just disappointed to see it on my Ford.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2023 | 09:17 AM
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Also, the 2002s/2003s have a security module rather than a GEM module and has been known to cause strange radio/lights/key issues.
Keep us posted.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2023 | 10:41 AM
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do the cleaning first listed in post above and follow the tests
 
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Old Feb 10, 2023 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SunBum
After starting, the voltage drops to about 12.2 volts for maybe 30 seconds or so then steadily rises to just over 14 volts while at idle. Does that sound normal?
This part does. Your glow plugs are working and when they turn off the alternator is able to keep up with demand.


 
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Old Feb 10, 2023 | 11:30 AM
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This is the part I was wondering most about. What you say makes sense though... Thanks!
 
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Old Feb 10, 2023 | 04:38 PM
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This part does. Your glow plugs are working and when they turn off the alternator is able to keep up with demand.
That's why I disconnected computer control of the glow plug system. Their only job as far as I'm concerned is to get the engine running.
 
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Low voltage can cause a ton of random codes.

Do you have a way to monitor PCM voltage while cranking?

I just had an issue where one battery connection wasn't doing well and I was basically cranking on one battery, but charging both.
Since I have a fast starter I had RPM for start but PCM voltage was dropping far enough that the IDM wouldn't fire the injectors.
Checking voltage drop at several points isolated the fault, I cleaned all battery connections and now it starts awesome again.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2023 | 07:57 AM
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Just as a follow-up, I failed to mention in the original post that these codes popped up just after installing a new ICP sensor (which I got from Amazon). I swapped the old sensor back in and all the codes went away. I never would've thought that a faulty ICP sensor could cause this kind of 'low-circuit' issues in other systems but I guess it can. I've ordered another ICP from dealer and will see how that goes. Otherwise, looks like the voltage behavior of the truck is normal.
 
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before I knew better, I bought an ICP and IRP off Amazon.
stuck them in a Ammo box under the back seat.
 
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