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Old Jan 31, 2023 | 09:41 PM
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I've got a 56 Effie that has what I believe to be a 292 Y-Block in it. I do not want to rebuild it, just get it running again long enough to have a 460 rebuilt and installed in the 56 Effie. Any advice on first steps, I'd appreciate it. Here are two pictures of it...

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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 05:47 AM
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Pull the dip stick and ck for oil and possibly water in the pan if it’s been sitting for awhile, pull the plugs and do a compression ck, if compression is bad that’s going to determine how far you want to go and how much money you want to spend to getting it running. If compression is acceptable you can move on to fuel and ign systems.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 07:32 AM
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First off, Welcome to FTE

I would imagine your 56 (Panel) has a 272 especially if it's the original engine but getting it started would be the same for all Y Blocks. When ya get the time post a few pictures of your truck.

Have you checked by hand if the engine turns over? If it does then try a fresh 12V battery and see if the starter will turn it over. If that works pull the spark plugs and give each cylinder a squirt of oil. With the coil disconnected (or the distributor cap removed) turn the engine over using the starter and see if you've got oil pressure. If yes, you're well on your way. Check to see if you have 12v to your points, gap your points, reinstall the spark plugs, distributor cap, AND ROTOR and pour a little fresh gas down the carb. If it tries to fire or better yet runs for a second you're there. Now would be a good time to change the oil and filter.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 08:04 AM
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If it's getting pulled for an engine swap you're wasting your time
 
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bigwin56f100
If it's getting pulled for an engine swap you're waiting your time
... or wasting ? True, but a Interesting point of view. If the final goal is to drive it down he road some would say the then it is all a waste of time.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 08:54 AM
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If it's getting pulled for an engine swap you're waiting your time
But if he will pull it and sell, having it running will make the sell go much easier and possibly more money.

By the way. Welcome to FTE! We would love to see pictures of your panel.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 08:55 AM
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If you get the 272 running and it runs strong why not keep it.... Yblocks are cool.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 09:35 AM
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Save the 272

That 272 looks like it was recently tinkered with. Sparkplug wires look good, fresh fuel filter, fairly clean overall look. I bet it will run, unless somebody broke it. I built a 272 and put a Isky Racing cam in it. Had that lumpy idle, good mufflers, and it sounded great. What more do you need, you will never win a race in that truck and you will keep breaking the next weak link with a big motor. Dress it up with aftermarket and T- bird parts. It will be worth more in the long run. 😊
 
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 10:17 AM
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... or wasting ? True, but a Interesting point of view. If the final goal is to drive it down he road some would say the then it is all a waste of time.
yes waste of time if you are going to pull it. As harrier said a running engine might sell better but in my view a running engine or not it's just a core. Without tearing an engine down and doing a rebuild it's all a waist of time, seals leak, parts are worn, etc.
Now, I am a fan of the 272-292-312 engines. Every old truck I own has one. If I thought I could change your mind into keeping the y block I would have been more supportive in getting the old engine fired up. Knowing it's ultimately going to be pulled it's a waste of your time and mine.
maybe I need a snickers candy bar!?!?
 
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Old Feb 1, 2023 | 03:42 PM
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I disagree. If it were me, I'd still want to pull the plugs, pour a quart or so of cheap oil down the carb and spin it over to lube it up, then try to get it started. I'd even do the compression check. Rather than it being "a waste of time" I look at it as all part of the grand experiment that is part of owning and working on these old trucks. For me personally, it would be a fun way to spend the afternoon. You won't know until you try it, and who knows? It might be a runner. Or not. Nothing ventured.....
 
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Old Feb 3, 2023 | 06:08 AM
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Depends on what your time is worth, I guess. Sometimes I go over to barn and organize bolts or sweep floor to get away from wife for a while. Better to be active mind and body wise than taking naps and watching tube....I would love to mess with that old engine and see if it will run. Maybe OP will find it's a good one and decide against the 460 swap. Now if you are still working and enjoy your job and make big bucks then yes a waste of time.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2023 | 08:06 AM
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Welcome . When dealing with these old trucks time is often wasted ( most often not intentionally ) but imho if you have the time to " play " with them to begin with a few more hours to see if you can get an engine running is worth it . I would just to see if I could . On the plus side unless you have a definite plan even a short drive may help you determine the direction you want to go with suspension ,steering and brakes etc .
 
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Old Feb 3, 2023 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg Rogers
. Sometimes I go over to barn and organize bolts or sweep floor to get away from wife for a while. Better to be active mind and body wise than taking naps and watching tube....
Those are wise words !
As I get close to my "best by due date" I would like to use my remaining time sometimes doing projects that I enjoy doing but might not be absolutely necessary.
Case in point: Building a wiring panel for my next project when my current one requires work. I think the only one keeping track is me.



 
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Old Feb 3, 2023 | 09:15 AM
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I think the bottom line is that if you enjoy doing it, then it's not a waste of time. Except for stamp collecting. Now that's a waste of time.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2023 | 10:57 AM
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I think the bottom line is that if you enjoy doing it, then it's not a waste of time. Except for stamp collecting. Now that's a waste of time.
not if you enjoy doing it
 
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