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Old Apr 12, 2025 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by westracing01
I'm confused. If you run the SPE CCV Delete, can you not just run the hose to a catch can instead of leaving it open to the air?
Yes, you can... @jimzpsd runs a homemade set up to a PVC "can" IIRC. Let him tell you about.

They do market their external catch can to use with their CCV relocate kit.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2025 | 07:24 PM
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But wouldn't you have to empty that catch can frequently? That would get annoying.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2025 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by WXboy
But wouldn't you have to empty that catch can frequently? That would get annoying.
That depends on the size of the can installed........I drain mine at every oil change (5k miles).
 
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Old Apr 13, 2025 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by WXboy
But wouldn't you have to empty that catch can frequently? That would get annoying.
IIRC you live in Kentucky and while you see do see colder weather during winter, I'm not sure you would get as much water as us northern boys but will get some i'm sure.

That can looks pretty big, like my CCR can, which has a 17 oz capacity. My old Mishimoto can was just over 5 oz. I used to drain it every 1k miles or so in winter because it was always about full of water with a smaller amounts of water soaked oil goop. In summer time, you can run all summer long because it just collects the small amount of oil without the condensation that collects in the engine in the colder months.

I installed my CCR can at least 2k miles ago and checked it once. I'll check it again soon. But look at see what the capacity of the SPE can is if you're looking to run it. Looks like it's at least 12 oz from just looking at it.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2025 | 05:57 PM
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Next oil change interval have a lot of work planned, and i will look at the hose end and see how much oil/dust is on it. I rarely park where a drip stain would be noticed or an issue, I do park on clean driveways in nice neighborhoods where I would definitely know if my truck left spots. That said I doubt it would be necessary to drain even a small catch can would be needed more than a couple of times a year. I live close to San Antonio, so temp and humidity swings are not huge, but we do have humidity most of the year, but dew point is more important than relative humidity even though they are both significant.

Tldr; if i was having a noticeable drip from my CCV delete hose I would put a catch can on, I haven't had that issue, but I have had some odor issues with some oil additives, but once i realized it was the additive it became a nonissue for me.
 
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Old May 1, 2025 | 01:48 PM
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I have been running a CCV delete to atmosphere on my truck for 10 years, no issues, no upper oil pan issues. I have never noticed any "dripping" oil from the hose but the frame is always shiny from vapor. I run the hose just behind the drivers side wheel well and every once in awhile I will get the smell of crankcase vapor.
 
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Old May 1, 2025 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by F250_Super_4X4
I have been running a CCV delete to atmosphere on my truck for 10 years, no issues, no upper oil pan issues. I have never noticed any "dripping" oil from the hose but the frame is always shiny from vapor. I run the hose just behind the drivers side wheel well and every once in awhile I will get the smell of crankcase vapor.
And thats the entire idea on why this mod is done, dump it and save the engine. A lot of ccv systems will basically duplicate the factory set up, so why bother with it if your going send the gases and crud back into the engine via turbo, bottom line is your not really accomplishing anything and if the set up (including aftermarket) were to clog up and you don't know it................you'll find out the hard way. EPA is the only reason to send it back to the engine, they don't care about longevity. Dumping it to the atmosphere is the only way to avoid future cc pressure build up without worry. Its a win win mod.
 
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Old May 1, 2025 | 03:03 PM
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So what did Ford change to make the 23-24 have the lowest CCP? Now that I see that, not going to touch it on mine. I have been putting off the DPK install for decent weather. Today I took the day off as I am waiting on a delivery of a lathe, but FedEx is playing games, the last update was at 1:29 AM and it was in Tuscon A. How they plan to get it to Rockford to my door today is beyond me, but their app says it will. While I was waiting I considered working on the truck but its only in the mid 50's and damp. If it was sunny and not so damp I would have worked on it, but just being outside a few minutes put a chill through me.
 
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Old May 2, 2025 | 06:14 PM
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So what did Ford change to make the 23-24 have the lowest CCP? Now that I see that, not going to touch it on mine. I have been putting off the DPK install for decent weather. Today I took the day off as I am waiting on a delivery of a lathe, but FedEx is playing games, the last update was at 1:29 AM and it was in Tuscon A. How they plan to get it to Rockford to my door today is beyond me, but their app says it will. While I was waiting I considered working on the truck but its only in the mid 50's and damp. If it was sunny and not so damp I would have worked on it, but just being outside a few minutes put a chill through me.
I despise FedEx. They have left me hanging far more than any other. Several times they've even claimed to have attempted delivery when nobody is home, when I've been out in the driveway wrenching.
 
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The 23-25 model OE CCV box may have the lowest pressure when new. My question is does it clog up more easily? After I swapped my OE '19 box for the OE '23 box I didn't see any noticeable difference in pressure judging by visible vapor and how the oil cap behaved when flipped over and laid onto the filler neck. But several months after installing it I started noticing oil dripping out of the front of the CCV box where the diaphram is, and then I developed an upper oil pan leak.

My truck is being repaired right now and when I get it back next week the CCV system is going bye bye. I'm not going to put up with these fears anymore.
 
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Old May 2, 2025 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WXboy
The 23-25 model OE CCV box may have the lowest pressure when new. My question is does it clog up more easily? After I swapped my OE '19 box for the OE '23 box I didn't see any noticeable difference in pressure judging by visible vapor and how the oil cap behaved when flipped over and laid onto the filler neck. But several months after installing it I started noticing oil dripping out of the front of the CCV box where the diaphram is, and then I developed an upper oil pan leak.

My truck is being repaired right now and when I get it back next week the CCV system is going bye bye. I'm not going to put up with these fears anymore.

I think I am going to just swap out my CCV box for the same OEM one that it came with for this very reason. Right now - knock on wood ~36k miles I have no leaks, no perceptible pressure when oil fill cap is removed. If I change out the OEM CCV box before that 1" x 1" filter clogs I will have my due diligence.
 
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Old May 2, 2025 | 07:07 PM
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Keep in mind people, there are two reasons to delete the ccv (stock) system, first is to permanently eliminate the possibility of any future pressure build up that is known to blow out seals and oil pan gaskets when the ccv box fails and clogs, the second reason is to eliminate the introduction of the oily vapor mist that mixes with dry egr soot and makes a gooey black mess inside the intake tract. I guess I don't understand the concerns then if your going to reroute it back to the turbo, then just keep it stock and replace the oem ccv box every 75k miles.
 
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Old May 2, 2025 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jimzpsd
Keep in mind people, there are two reasons to delete the ccv (stock) system, first is to permanently eliminate the possibility of any future pressure build up that is known to blow out seals and oil pan gaskets when the ccv box fails and clogs, the second reason is to eliminate the introduction of the oily vapor mist that mixes with dry egr soot and makes a gooey black mess inside the intake tract. I guess I don't understand the concerns then if your going to reroute it back to the turbo, then just keep it stock and replace the oem ccv box every 75k miles.
Heating the mill up was what I was told to keep soot and the gooey black mess to a minimum. These engines like to run hot and be under load. Mine is not a daily driver. Truck camper and ~6500lb boat in tow is typically the way I use the rig. I am a freak about oil leaks so changing out the CCV box is part of my regular maintenance plan routine.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2026 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jimzpsd
And thats the entire idea on why this mod is done, dump it and save the engine. A lot of ccv systems will basically duplicate the factory set up, so why bother with it if your going send the gases and crud back into the engine via turbo, bottom line is your not really accomplishing anything and if the set up (including aftermarket) were to clog up and you don't know it................you'll find out the hard way. EPA is the only reason to send it back to the engine, they don't care about longevity. Dumping it to the atmosphere is the only way to avoid future cc pressure build up without worry. It’s a win win mod.
Question on your external catch can. Most cans have an “IN” fitting and an “OUT” fitting. Did you plug the Out port closed, or do you leave it open to vent to the atmosphere?

I have the SPE internal CCV kit installed on my 6.7 and vented to the frame. I’m tired of the smell and, more importantly, the oil drips on my driveway. I want to add a catch can and the external SPE can kit is both unavailable and pricey.

Which catch can did you install. I’m thinking a can like this one might be an option too
POSENG Universal 10AN Oil Catch Can Tank Baffled 1L with Filter Aluminum Black HTRACING https://a.co/d/0cGOzS1z
 
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