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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 05:36 PM
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mirror replacement perdicament

I have a mirror mount on my truck door that held a rear view mirror. Unfortunately the mirror decided it didn't want to stay with my truck.
So, I'm looking for a replacement, well actually two since I want the mirrors to match. The mount is drilled and tapped for 1/4"-28 threads. Threads about 3/8" deep and the rest of the mount is hollow. Most of the mirrors I find is 1/4-20. I'm wondering if I can
re-tap the metal over existing threads with a 1/4-20 thread and it will hold...(maybe use some epoxy inside the body of the mount ...........or will I just make a mess of it and make it broke. The drill size for the
two thread sizes are within a 64th or so of being the same and the mount is 7/16" or so wide so I have some meat to play with...










another option... drill completely thru mount and find a mirror with a stud long enough to pass thru completely
and secure with an acorn nut (or something) at the back side of the mount




another caveat... I don't want to remove the mounts from the door... involves removing upholstery and windows and regulators
to get to the internal nuts.

suggestions?

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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 06:12 PM
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Are you sure it isn't metric? An M6 x 1.0 would be nearly the same size and is 25 threads per inch.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 06:58 PM
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This is what you need John. Only $99 on eBay. This way your mirrors match!


 
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 07:07 PM
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This is what you need John. Only $99 on eBay. This way your mirrors match!

That's what I have abe but having second thought now that I didn't build a flat deck..
 
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 07:57 PM
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You could drill out the arm and heil-coil to 1/4-20 or cut stud off mirror head and tap and put stud in it.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by abe
This is what you need John. Only $99 on eBay. This way your mirrors match!

had those west coast mirrors on a 72 ford truck and loved them best rear view I ever had. No blind spots with a spot convex at the bottom
but they just don't add to the ambiance of a '53 as lovely as mine


 
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jniolon
had those west coast mirrors on a 72 ford truck and loved them best rear view I ever had. No blind spots with a spot convex at the bottom
but they just don't add to the ambiance of a '53 as lovely as mine
For sure! ....
 
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 09:46 PM
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That's what I have abe but having second thought now that I didn't build a flat deck..
But with that bed you are building you'll need good mirrors to see around it.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by abe
But with that bed you are building you'll need good mirrors to see around it.
Bed is narrower than the cab though abe but seeing as I have these I'll likely use them..
 
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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 03:16 PM
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never installed heli-coils before but understand the principal and it's easy on youtube. The mirror mount is 7/16" wide at the mounting face with a 1/4" hole




a 1/4" helicoil needs a 17/64 hole to tap for the coil.

7/16 = .4375"
17/64 = .2656"

leaving a difference of .1719 or just a fuzz less than 3/16 total
I don't know how to figure the depth of tap thread cut or if it even matters

3/16 = .1875 / 2 = .0937 or 3/32 edge around the hole

I think that will leave enough material to hold the mirror... there's not really a lot of lateral force there.

tell me why I'm wrong

Also the thread depth now is only about 3/16 deep. Do they make a helicoil that short ?? or

feeling around with a piece of tie wire , it doesn't feel like the current inside diameter is much larger than the threaded portion so
the drilling/tapping might give a bite for the coil deeper inside the mount.. keep in mind that I'm doing all this conjecture thru a 1/4"
almost blind hole.

If this is feasible I'll do the drill/tap/insert with red lock tight (after I dry test the hole.

any tips/advice/warnings are encouraged. if I screw this up, it's back three steps or more and replace mounts AND mirrors and
that isn't what I want to happen

thanks
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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 03:21 PM
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( if I screw this up, it's back three steps or more and replace mounts AND mirrors and
that isn't what I want to happen )

I thought that was the theme of your build....
couldn't resist John....sorry me bad
 
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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 03:45 PM
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not a theme John...more like a sword that is continuously hanging there waiting to fall

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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 03:56 PM
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Did it fall off while you were driving and if so did the mirror survive ..?
 
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searched for it for over an hour... even on both sides of the road. Nowhere to be found , but no telling how far it bounced or traveled off the shoulder...
 
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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 05:15 PM
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Don't worry, you'll find it in pristine condition after you get new ones..
 
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