No Start - Maybe PATS, Control Module or Something Else?
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No Start - Maybe PATS, Control Module or Something Else?
Hi Everyone,
This looks to be a great community you've built here. I've been perusing the forum to help troubleshoot an issue I'm experiencing but keep coming up short and was hoping someone might be able to offer a bit of guidance or help be a sounding board. I have a 2013 F-150 Platinum with a 6.2L engine. Truck was running well and then I had an issue the other day with it not starting (power cycles on ok, no crank). I fiddled with the ignition on and off for a few minutes and played with the battery in the key, and presto she cranked up and ran perfectly. Got in to go to work in the AM and fired up like a charm so I figured it had something to do with the key battery (I've since learned that this would not have been the case). Went to drive home from work and now it won't start at all. Seems to power up ok but I can't get the engine to turn over. It's throwing quite a few error codes which has me confused on where to start. I suspect maybe some of these codes are related:
Edit to add my current top suspects:
Nick
This looks to be a great community you've built here. I've been perusing the forum to help troubleshoot an issue I'm experiencing but keep coming up short and was hoping someone might be able to offer a bit of guidance or help be a sounding board. I have a 2013 F-150 Platinum with a 6.2L engine. Truck was running well and then I had an issue the other day with it not starting (power cycles on ok, no crank). I fiddled with the ignition on and off for a few minutes and played with the battery in the key, and presto she cranked up and ran perfectly. Got in to go to work in the AM and fired up like a charm so I figured it had something to do with the key battery (I've since learned that this would not have been the case). Went to drive home from work and now it won't start at all. Seems to power up ok but I can't get the engine to turn over. It's throwing quite a few error codes which has me confused on where to start. I suspect maybe some of these codes are related:
- Code: U0422:00-2E - Invalid Data Received From Body Control Module (From Powertrain Control Module PCM)
- Code: B1215B1215:00-2B - External Memory Card (From Accessory Protocol Interface Module APIM)
- Code: B10F1:14-0A - Key In Switch - Circuit Short To Ground Or Open (From Body Control Module BCM)
- Code: B10D7:17-08 - PATS Key (From Body Control Module BCM)
- Code: B1380:17-08 - Steering Wheel Right Switch Pack - Circuit Voltage Above Threshold (From Steering Column Control Module SCCM)
- Code: B1A82:13-08 - External Trip Switch - Circuit Open (From Instrument Panel Control Module IPC)
- Code: B2729 - Cushion Over-Temp Detected
- Code: B1163 - Left Power Running Board Hall-Effect Sensor Failure (Note I removed the running boards)
- Code: B1170 - Right Power Running Board Hall-Effect Sensor Failure (Note I removed the running boards)
- Code: B116D - LH Power Running Board Motor Line Open (Note I removed the running boards)
- Code: B116E - RH Power Running Board Motor Line Open
- https://ricksfreeautorepairadvice.co...itheft-system/
- https://moduleexperts.com/ford-pats-relearn-procedure/
Edit to add my current top suspects:
- PCM Board Itself or possibly a fuse that is related that I haven't identified.
- PATS transceiver / PATS Control Module (still trying to figure out if this is built into the instrument cluster or a separate module)
- Clockspring
- Ignition Switch
Nick
Last edited by gromitbeast; 01-13-2023 at 09:52 AM. Reason: Addition1, Addition2 more info
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Thank you ProjectSho. That's a good point. I'm not receiving either of those flags.
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1. What was used to pull the codes?
2. From which modules were each of those codes pulled in the first grouping?
Since the running boards have been deleted, all of those codes can be ignored.
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Thanks again ProjectSho.
1. What was used to pull the codes?OBD Link MX+ over Bluetooth to ForScan2. From which modules were each of those codes pulled in the first grouping?
I updated in the original thread to include this information..
Update from today so far. I reset the DTC's and am left with the following 2 codes:
1. What was used to pull the codes?OBD Link MX+ over Bluetooth to ForScan2. From which modules were each of those codes pulled in the first grouping?
I updated in the original thread to include this information..
Update from today so far. I reset the DTC's and am left with the following 2 codes:
- Code: B1215B1215:00-2B - External Memory Card (From Accessory Protocol Interface Module APIM)
- Code: B10F1:14-0A - Key In Switch - Circuit Short To Ground Or Open (From Body Control Module BCM)
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