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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 04:49 PM
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Rear Shock Angle

I'm looking for the shock angle on a stock 54 F100. The pictures I have seen appear to have the shocks at almost 45° which I have always thought was too much.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 06:37 PM
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I have a 56, and on that they are at 30 degrees if I recall correctly.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 07:04 PM
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Any chance you have a picture of that original set up
? My 54 came to me with a GM rear end that may have been perfectly good, but I really have a problem with GM parts in my old Fords. I pulled the GM rear end and am putting a 9" in place of it. I would like to keep the shock angle as close to original as possible. The 9" connects to the springs differently than the original in that the u bolts come up from the bottom and go into a plate on the top. I have a set of lower shock mounts that will be welded on and I want them to get as far from the pumpkin as possible without exceeding 30°. The pictures I have seen of the stock units look like they are close to 45°.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 07:34 PM
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Here are a couple of pictures of my 55 before I started the restoration. I can't give you current pictures of the original setup because I installed a S-550 IRS.
I believe the previous post of 30 degrees is in the ballpark.


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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 07:43 PM
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That's what I was looking for. Much appreciated. Thanks,
 
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 07:57 PM
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Do you still have the original shock absorber mounting beam on the frame?

If so, you just need an offset mount under, and to the rear of the axle beam to mount the shocks.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Klawockvet
Any chance you have a picture of that original set up
? My 54 came to me with a GM rear end that may have been perfectly good, but I really have a problem with GM parts in my old Fords. I pulled the GM rear end and am putting a 9" in place of it. I would like to keep the shock angle as close to original as possible. The 9" connects to the springs differently than the original in that the u bolts come up from the bottom and go into a plate on the top. I have a set of lower shock mounts that will be welded on and I want them to get as far from the pumpkin as possible without exceeding 30°. The pictures I have seen of the stock units look like they are close to 45°.
My setup sounds about the same as the one you are planning except I have a Dana 60 rear on mine. When I bought the truck 10 years ago the PO had the rear end flipped over the springs for lowering, but he never completed the job. So last summer I flipped it back, and between that and setting my pinion angle correctly it really worked out well and was way worth the effort. I ended up with almost the same set up as you are going to with your 9 inch. U bolts holding the axle to the springs thru the top spring plate. I dont have pics, but I did buy some lower weld on shock mounts from Mid-Fifty and here are their instructions which I thought could maybe help you out a little.

 
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 09:49 PM
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This forum is a wealth of knowledge.

Remember that many Ford rear ends have the offset differential to match the offset engine mounting.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2022 | 08:47 AM
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This forum is a wealth of knowledge.

Remember that many Ford rear ends have the offset differential to match the offset engine mounting.
Yes sir!
That is very true, especially when going with a different engine, engine mounts, and rear axle using the spring perches that were already welded on to them from the donor truck. I just went through all this last summer when I rebuilt my rear suspension and added "correct the pinion angle" to the list of things that needed to be addressed as part of that project. Once I got all the spring pins replaced, springs pulled apart, cleaned, broken spring bolts replaced, and had the rear upper shackle mounts rebuilt, I put it all back together just to measure my pinion operating angle. It turned out the the rear pinion was pointing up too high and needed to be lowered about 2 degrees, so I used shims between the springs and the spring perches to correct it. If a guy had ground off the old perches and then used new ones he could just set the pinion angle and weld them as part of the rear axle installation. One of my many problems is I don't weld, nor have a place I could do it, let alone a lift.
 
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The instructions from Mid Fifty were exactly what I needed. Thanks. I bought the shock mounts from them but never got any instructions on location. Since the truck had a GM rear end none of the original mounts were present. I started this project back in the fall of 2019 and between Covid and moving everything was put on hold till I got settled into the new shop and new location. Doing a move in the middle of a build is a bad thing, especially for an old guy who has trouble remembering things anyway. It wasn't until a week ago that it got cold enough outside to start back to work on the truck in my warm shop. I have a lot of catching up to do.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2022 | 09:16 AM
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Shock angle

Morning boys
new guy on board
I just checked my 54 (all original) factory shocks are 30 deg in to the top and perp to the frame
mou Ted to the original upper shock mount
Hope this helps

John
 
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Old Dec 29, 2022 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Water John
Morning boys
new guy on board
I just checked my 54 (all original) factory shocks are 30 deg in to the top and perp to the frame
mou Ted to the original upper shock mount
Hope this helps

John
Welcome aboard John! And Thank You for verifying that for us.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2022 | 02:18 PM
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The instructions from Mid Fifty were exactly what I needed. Thanks. I bought the shock mounts from them but never got any instructions on location. Since the truck had a GM rear end none of the original mounts were present. I started this project back in the fall of 2019 and between Covid and moving everything was put on hold till I got settled into the new shop and new location. Doing a move in the middle of a build is a bad thing, especially for an old guy who has trouble remembering things anyway. It wasn't until a week ago that it got cold enough outside to start back to work on the truck in my warm shop. I have a lot of catching up to do.
Glad they are what you need! Yeah sometimes I too have noticed when you order from Mid-Fifty you don't get the instructions. I think it must have to do with who is packing the box of parts and how busy they are at the time. (And if it was me working for them I would be overdosing on Tootsie Rolls) If that happens they have a good link on their website:

https://www.midfifty.com/

Once you get there. Look under their logo on top, you'll see a white banner strip with several links. To the lower right of the word "Parts", click on "Instructions" and it will load a page of many of their products instructions, videos, and support materials.
The files sometimes aren't clearly titled (at least in my mind) many are refrenced under the stock number of the part. But they are a great help and just another reason that Mid-Fifty is my go to.




 
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Old Dec 29, 2022 | 04:01 PM
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No problem, I'm sure I'll be asking a bunch of questions during this build

John
 
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Originally Posted by Water John
Morning boys
new guy on board
I just checked my 54 (all original) factory shocks are 30 deg in to the top and perp to the frame
mou Ted to the original upper shock mount
Hope this helps

John
I just looked at more of my pictures before I tore my truck apart and there are three holes, for each shock, in the upper shock mounts for the rear axle. My shocks were attached to the holes toward the inside.
 
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