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Old Dec 23, 2022 | 04:11 PM
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Ebpv acting out!!?

It's a bit weird but, my exhaust back pressure valve is opening and closing over and over again while the truck is in factory high idle. You can hear it in the tailpipe when the valve closes and when it opens. While it's high idling it just intermittently open close, open close, open close. I'm about to be deleting my ebpv anyway, with my new high-flow outlet going on my KC stage 1 that I'm getting soon, but this is weird, wonder why it's doing this. Messed up connector? I'm not sure.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2022 | 04:28 PM
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Normal operation If oil temp is below operating temp.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2022 | 04:34 PM
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It's also activated on a load-based calculation. If the load isn't as expected (as with aftermarket tuning), it will fiddle fart around and eventually settle down. It is normal.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2022 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
it will fiddle fart around and eventually settle down. It is normal.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2022 | 06:38 PM
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Phew, thought I had more issues! Thanks guys! Just sounded weird because of the fast 3-4 sec duty cycle on it opening and closing over and over. Glad it's normal! Thanks!
 
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Old Dec 23, 2022 | 06:40 PM
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It's also activated on a load-based calculation. If the load isn't as expected (as with aftermarket tuning), it will fiddle fart around and eventually settle down. It is normal.
I didn't think tuning would affect that particular function. Interesting. Thanks for the help!
 
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Old Dec 23, 2022 | 06:41 PM
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Normal operation If oil temp is below operating temp.
I was actually quite surprised by how much my truck was high idling today. Even after driving and getting the truck all the way up to temperature, shortly after putting the e-brake on it would high idle again. I figured it would have took longer for the oil temp to come down, or maybe it never got up that high. We're going to be down to single digits at night and in the teens and twenties during the day for a few days. Getting a good test for my glow plugs!
 
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Old Dec 23, 2022 | 08:14 PM
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I was actually quite surprised by how much my truck was high idling today. Even after driving and getting the truck all the way up to temperature, shortly after putting the e-brake on it would high idle again.
On my recently departed e99, I could never get my high idle to work. And I specifically had the "cold weather" PCM no less. Even though my e-brake wouldn't work, I could engage the pedal enough to presumably get the high idle to work. Never would.

Consider my surprise when my new to me 2002 - from Arizona no less - all of a sudden started high idling on me one cold AM. Since this rust free specimen has a good functioning brake, I use it even if I don't have to, just to keep it exercised. Which allows that high idle to kick in.

I too have noticed more than once that it would high idle after what I thought was more than enough time to warm up the oil. Then there are times when it won't after a short period of driving. I don't think anything is wrong, or if it is, it can't be that big a deal. Just the fact it works is a huge bonus for me.
 
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My '02 was bought in Alpine, TX on special order by the Fire Department.
it kicks up to high idle after a few seconds if you don't touch the brake, or gear shift.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2022 | 10:43 AM
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I didn't think tuning would affect that particular function. Interesting. Thanks for the help!
Most people tuning don't mess with those functions as there's really no need to. However, with aftermarket tuning (most of it due to how fuel is added), the load calculations and fuel rates are skewed. This causes a more abrupt change in what the PCM is looking for when it closes the backpressure valve. In all honesty, I could probably fix it as all of my 99+ 7.3s do it. I find it's not worth my time to try to fix it since catching the actual culprit within the 30-60 seconds it's "acting out" would be an exercise in futility.

One other misconception is that the backpressure valve and idle-up feature are related or reliant on one another to work. They're not....but factory programming has them timed to where it seems that way.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2022 | 05:09 PM
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Phew, thought I had more issues! Thanks guys! Just sounded weird because of the fast 3-4 sec duty cycle on it opening and closing over and over. Glad it's normal! Thanks!
When mine was functioning properly it would not cycle like that. It would stay closed until it got to temp or I touched the brake pedal.
When it started short cycling like that it was the beginning of a failure, I believe with the EBP Sensor or a clogged tube to it.
It got bad enough that it would remain engaged while driving, drastically reducing performance.

If your going to delete it anyways you can just unplug it at the pedestal. No codes and high idle still works. Mine was that way for years until I did the EBPV delete.
 
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