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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 08:48 AM
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Won’t pull gas from tank

Been a while, don’t know if I posted this. Originally, my “new to me” ‘79 F250 would run from the gas tank, but took forever to get primed.

Finally, one day it wouldn’t start at all. If I put gas in the carb it would run fine. I replaced the fuel pump and still nothing.

I blew air down the fuel pump supply hose and it exited at the tank (hose removed there too.) I could blow air from the tank outlet into the tank as well. If I blew air from the filler neck, it came out the tank outlet hose as well. Based on this, I see no restrictions.

I ran a hose from a gas can to the new fuel pump and the truck starts almost immediately, what am I missing?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 09:36 AM
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Could be the suction hose at the tank is collapsing or leaking air.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by beartracks
Could be the suction hose at the tank is collapsing or leaking air.

in the tank or outside? I’ve replaced the exterior rubber lines.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 10:39 AM
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Inside the tank on the pickup tube there's a screen, sock , filter whatever you care to call it. if that plugs up it'll cause lots of problems. are you sure there's not an in line filter on the suction line ?

Usually you can blow air back and it cleans it off enough it'll start and run fine for a bit until it gunks up again. but who knows what yours looks like. you have to pull the tank and it's on the sending unit assembly.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 11:38 AM
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Try running it by placing a gas can on a stool by the front driver's side tire with a fuel line directly to the pump. This will tell you where to look next.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 11:47 AM
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Fuel pump could be sucking a hose shut...
 
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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 12:29 PM
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If you replaced the suction rubber line be sure it is "suction" fuel line. Lines designed for pressure don't neccessarily protect from suction collapse.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by redroad
Try running it by placing a gas can on a stool by the front driver's side tire with a fuel line directly to the pump. This will tell you where to look next.
did this and it runs fine.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by beartracks
If you replaced the suction rubber line be sure it is "suction" fuel line. Lines designed for pressure don't neccessarily protect from suction collapse.
only replaced lines outside of the tank. I figured lines inside where all metal.
 
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Originally Posted by robertrpeak
Fuel pump could be sucking a hose shut...
It runs from a gas can right before the fuel pump, I’ll try moving the gas can to the line right where it comes from the tank.
 
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It's possible the metal pickup tube in the tank has rusted and open a hole.
 
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There is a section in the fuel that has a hose at the back of the cab. When I replaced the rear section of tubing on my 78, it had been running fine. Moving it around enough it crumbled. Fuel pumps are kind of like old well hand pumps. Not too good at pumping air but work well when you get the liquid to them.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 05:55 PM
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I had a similar issue with my 78 F350 when I bought it. Turned out the 44 year old rubber hose running from the in-cab fuel tank to the selector valve was dry rotted. Looked fine initially but further inspection showed tiny cracks allowing it to randomly suck air and cause the engine to die. 3 bucks worth of replacement fuel line cured the issue.
 
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Originally Posted by Westcoast Highboy
I had a similar issue with my 78 F350 when I bought it. Turned out the 44 year old rubber hose running from the in-cab fuel tank to the selector valve was dry rotted. Looked fine initially but further inspection showed tiny cracks allowing it to randomly suck air and cause the engine to die. 3 bucks worth of replacement fuel line cured the issue.
good thought. I’ll check mine out.
 
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Originally Posted by 440 sixpack
Inside the tank on the pickup tube there's a screen, sock , filter whatever you care to call it. if that plugs up it'll cause lots of problems. are you sure there's not an in line filter on the suction line ?

Usually you can blow air back and it cleans it off enough it'll start and run fine for a bit until it gunks up again. but who knows what yours looks like. you have to pull the tank and it's on the sending unit assembly.

Right on the money here. If you have replaced the fuel pump, and all rubber lines and or blow tested them for being clear. The last item is the sending unit, filter sock on the end of the pick up tube. And yes the only way to get the sending unit out is to normally drop the tank. Unless you have a 3" body lift or remove the bed.

Does it have duel tanks by chance?
 
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