Deer Season
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Deer Season
hey to all my hunting buddies!!and ford buddies
. so excited for this deer season, went to the indoor range today to sight in (b/c the wind was out of control today) and sighted in my 870 at 25yrds. i have a rifled barrel so i bought 2 boxes of the new Remington 385gr. Core-Lockt Ultra Hollow Point Sabots. WOW, 2'' group dead center at 25yrds about 1" high, i fig im good to about 50yrds with it sighted in like that. i tell you one thing, the slug has yet to open at 25yrds. im guessing full expansion at around 100 or more. you all think that sighting it in at 1" high would be about dead center at 50? or do you think the slug is still on its way up and increasing its travel height?? something tells me i should have done the reverse. its crappy when you dont have the distance available that you want to work with ya know. Good luck to all of you this season. safety first
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. so excited for this deer season, went to the indoor range today to sight in (b/c the wind was out of control today) and sighted in my 870 at 25yrds. i have a rifled barrel so i bought 2 boxes of the new Remington 385gr. Core-Lockt Ultra Hollow Point Sabots. WOW, 2'' group dead center at 25yrds about 1" high, i fig im good to about 50yrds with it sighted in like that. i tell you one thing, the slug has yet to open at 25yrds. im guessing full expansion at around 100 or more. you all think that sighting it in at 1" high would be about dead center at 50? or do you think the slug is still on its way up and increasing its travel height?? something tells me i should have done the reverse. its crappy when you dont have the distance available that you want to work with ya know. Good luck to all of you this season. safety first bigdawg
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From: inver grove heights MN
depending on where im hunting i use either the 30-30 or the 12. guage, i shot a button-buck monday with the 30-30, im glad i didnt have the 12 guage, it was so close and the rifle tore its ribs apart, put a nice hole through its heart.
i need to buy my own land though, where i hunt has more hunters than deer it seems.
goodluck to all the hunters, be safe
i need to buy my own land though, where i hunt has more hunters than deer it seems.
goodluck to all the hunters, be safe
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Yes, please be safe. Don't shoot me!
I agree, where we've been hunting I see more orange heads than white tails. We share hunting grounds with 2 other families, and I don't like not knowing who's there or where they are. I try to stay next to the trees just in case.
Yes, please be safe. Don't shoot me!
I agree, where we've been hunting I see more orange heads than white tails. We share hunting grounds with 2 other families, and I don't like not knowing who's there or where they are. I try to stay next to the trees just in case.
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I went out last weekend with my new 12 gauge Mossberg 500 fully rifled barrel and fiber optic sites. Shot me a nice 8 point buck with a beautiful spread from about a hundred yards out.
Good luck this weekend!
Good luck this weekend!
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From: inver grove heights MN
Bluemoose89- youre very welcome. Minnesota is sopposedly overpopulated with deer right now, that my area i didnt even have to apply for a doe permit, they are automatically given with the buck lisence, and you can get management permits also.
FYI- i thought it was a doe by the way, and thought it was alot bigger than it was cause it was standing towards me with its head down, pretty dark out, last day i could hunt.
this just makes more room for the BIG bucks to move around freely, and i dont appreciate your sarcasm.
FYI- i thought it was a doe by the way, and thought it was alot bigger than it was cause it was standing towards me with its head down, pretty dark out, last day i could hunt.
this just makes more room for the BIG bucks to move around freely, and i dont appreciate your sarcasm.
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From: Montana Territory
Speaking of shooting does---
There is one guy that I hunt with that refuses to shoot a doe, and this is going to be his third meatless year. We hunt on some family property in central Montana, and the doe to buck ratio is somewhere around 75:1. Its outrageous, and has been mismanaged for years, everybody tries to shoot a buck to control the population. When was the last time that a buck was responsible for the population? The only way to lower the population is to eliminate the overabundance of does. My favorite thing is all the guys around here (Maine) are trying to shoot bucks, and then they can't figure out why there aren't any when they settle and shoot a tiny forkhorn. Maybe thats why I wanted to be a wildlife biologist.
Yes by the way, I only shoot does, because they taste way better than any buck, and I don't have to brag up a forkhorn.
There is one guy that I hunt with that refuses to shoot a doe, and this is going to be his third meatless year. We hunt on some family property in central Montana, and the doe to buck ratio is somewhere around 75:1. Its outrageous, and has been mismanaged for years, everybody tries to shoot a buck to control the population. When was the last time that a buck was responsible for the population? The only way to lower the population is to eliminate the overabundance of does. My favorite thing is all the guys around here (Maine) are trying to shoot bucks, and then they can't figure out why there aren't any when they settle and shoot a tiny forkhorn. Maybe thats why I wanted to be a wildlife biologist.
Yes by the way, I only shoot does, because they taste way better than any buck, and I don't have to brag up a forkhorn.
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From: inver grove heights MN
i learned i cant pick and choose in my area, after watching 3 does under my stand on opening morning, then letting them pass, that ended my oppourtunities for that season, cause i had a fork horn come in 2 days later but he was spooked, hiding in the thick brush, wouldnt let me get a clean shot at him, so i was meatless that year. now if its brown, its down.
there isnt much food for the deer in my area, not many oak trees and no clover plots, its not my property so i cant do much about it. im hoping to get some land that i can plant some food or clover plots on it, plant a few apple trees. i deserve at least one beautiful buck after getting skunked for a couple years right?
there isnt much food for the deer in my area, not many oak trees and no clover plots, its not my property so i cant do much about it. im hoping to get some land that i can plant some food or clover plots on it, plant a few apple trees. i deserve at least one beautiful buck after getting skunked for a couple years right?
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Originally posted by BuiltToughF250
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FYI- i thought it was a doe by the way, and thought it was alot bigger than it was cause it was standing towards me with its head down, pretty dark out, last day i could hunt.
this just makes more room for the BIG bucks to move around freely, and i dont appreciate your sarcasm. [/B]
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FYI- i thought it was a doe by the way, and thought it was alot bigger than it was cause it was standing towards me with its head down, pretty dark out, last day i could hunt.
this just makes more room for the BIG bucks to move around freely, and i dont appreciate your sarcasm. [/B]
p.s can u find the sarcasm?
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From: inver grove heights MN
"thanks for shooting a button buck" whats NOT sarcastic about that? and what else could you have possibley meant by it?
so your telling me i was taking a shot i wasnt too sure about because i couldnt see the "buttons" but yet- you couldnt see them in the daylight? dont flame me here- you just proved yourself a hypocrite.
by the way it was about 40 feet away i think, with its rear against a hill i had a scope so that made the sight clearer, it was just as the sun was going down. you werent there at the time, so how can you judge that i took an unsafe shot?
so your telling me i was taking a shot i wasnt too sure about because i couldnt see the "buttons" but yet- you couldnt see them in the daylight? dont flame me here- you just proved yourself a hypocrite.
by the way it was about 40 feet away i think, with its rear against a hill i had a scope so that made the sight clearer, it was just as the sun was going down. you werent there at the time, so how can you judge that i took an unsafe shot?
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Originally posted by BuiltToughF250
cause it was standing towards me with its head down, pretty dark out, last day i could hunt.
cause it was standing towards me with its head down, pretty dark out, last day i could hunt.
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From: Albion Nebraska
Deer season in Nebraska starts Saturday. I'm looking forward to using the old .44 mag Carbine to bag my game. I'm not too picky about the whole doe / buck choice. If it's a decent sized , I don't shoot fawns, doe after opening day I'll take it. I just hope we get a good hard winter cuz there is way too big a population around here. Need to weed them out before we start getting alot of disease.
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the fact THAT you made the same mistake in the *daylight*- that you couldnt tell it was a button buck instead of a doe, but yet your telling me i made a bad dicision by taking this deer????
what was so bad about my decision? i knew exactly what i was shooting at- a DEER... i was legally able to take a buck OR a doe... i mentioned that it was pretty dark out because that made it kind of hard to judge the deer's size- besides if i happened to nail it square in the heart it must not have been too dark to safely shoot-
anyways... what im getting at here is the fact that your giving me a hard time about not being able to tell it was a button buck, but yet you shot one in broad daylight and couldnt tell the difference... thats where the hypocrite part comes in.
what was so bad about my decision? i knew exactly what i was shooting at- a DEER... i was legally able to take a buck OR a doe... i mentioned that it was pretty dark out because that made it kind of hard to judge the deer's size- besides if i happened to nail it square in the heart it must not have been too dark to safely shoot-
anyways... what im getting at here is the fact that your giving me a hard time about not being able to tell it was a button buck, but yet you shot one in broad daylight and couldnt tell the difference... thats where the hypocrite part comes in.
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From: Near Bloom, PA
My partner at work won't shoot or eat does. He says they taste different. Therefore he hasn't got any deer in awhile.
I don't think there's a difference. Meat in the freezer is what I'm after, and if I wait for a nice buck odds are I'm not getting a deer.
PA laws are now 3 points to a side for bucks to be legal (in my area, some places it's 4) and there's a $25 fine if you're caught with less. I have already seen some much bigger bucks as a result.
I have shot a couple button bucks in the past, both times with clear shots. Last year I couldn't even tell the deer was a buck until I began field-dressing it, his buttons were still covered by hide. So it is easy to mistake one, I've never deliberately shot one though. I guess it depends on the deer management practices in your particular area whether it's accepted or not.
I don't think there's a difference. Meat in the freezer is what I'm after, and if I wait for a nice buck odds are I'm not getting a deer.
PA laws are now 3 points to a side for bucks to be legal (in my area, some places it's 4) and there's a $25 fine if you're caught with less. I have already seen some much bigger bucks as a result.
I have shot a couple button bucks in the past, both times with clear shots. Last year I couldn't even tell the deer was a buck until I began field-dressing it, his buttons were still covered by hide. So it is easy to mistake one, I've never deliberately shot one though. I guess it depends on the deer management practices in your particular area whether it's accepted or not.