It broke again 😢
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Laughing Gas
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It broke again 😢
Sitting here waiting on tow truck. Idash says it is running 13.9in of vacuum. Have a lot of error codes. To many to list.
Pulled map sensor and it is all oily with fresh oil. Dpf went from 37 percent to 180 percent says drive to clean, dpf at maximum capacity clean now.
Good thing is I had just made a 1500 mile run this weekend sure glad it didn’t blow then. Have 225k on it. I was hoping it
was just getting broke in. Oops I do not like that pun. Lol.
Pulled map sensor and it is all oily with fresh oil. Dpf went from 37 percent to 180 percent says drive to clean, dpf at maximum capacity clean now.
Good thing is I had just made a 1500 mile run this weekend sure glad it didn’t blow then. Have 225k on it. I was hoping it
was just getting broke in. Oops I do not like that pun. Lol.
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Sitting here waiting on tow truck. Idash says it is running 13.9in of vacuum. Have a lot of error codes. To many to list.
Pulled map sensor and it is all oily with fresh oil. Dpf went from 37 percent to 180 percent says drive to clean, dpf at maximum capacity clean now.
Good thing is I had just made a 1500 mile run this weekend sure glad it didn’t blow then. Have 225k on it. I was hoping it
was just getting broke in. Oops I do not like that pun. Lol.
Pulled map sensor and it is all oily with fresh oil. Dpf went from 37 percent to 180 percent says drive to clean, dpf at maximum capacity clean now.
Good thing is I had just made a 1500 mile run this weekend sure glad it didn’t blow then. Have 225k on it. I was hoping it
was just getting broke in. Oops I do not like that pun. Lol.
Post up the codes when you get a chance.
Sounds like you have a plugged filter (with drive to clean message)... let us know.
You could also try a manually started regen through the iDash...
Good luck man...
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the bottom of that. I have put approximately 10k on since that happened and it has been running fine.
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If you can get it running, pop the oil fill cap and see if it's under pressure. That would indicate a crankcase vent issue.
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For the P061A code I found this:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ensor%20signal.
Did you check the air filter?
So you have a plugged DPF with pending codes for the MAF sensor, MAP sensor, O2 sensor and torque monitoring code... what about this... maybe the plugged filter is causing this because of the restriction of flow through the system, hence skewed voltage readings out of the sensors, because of the plugged DPF which is causing these "pending" codes...
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Air filter reset button was still good. I did not pull the filter. Dpf was at 30 couple percent when it went into limp mode.
Filled up the dpf in about 15 miles while I limped it off the interstate. I had 0 boost. When I cleared the codes and restarted the truck I had boost for about half mile then it went back into limp mode again. Everything sounds fine when it runs.
I am hoping it just a sensor but……
Filled up the dpf in about 15 miles while I limped it off the interstate. I had 0 boost. When I cleared the codes and restarted the truck I had boost for about half mile then it went back into limp mode again. Everything sounds fine when it runs.
I am hoping it just a sensor but……
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I was going to say to try a manual regen as it's now possible on our trucks...
How do I initiate a Regen with the iDash? (Available on select applications)
• Vehicle must be in Park.
• Fuel Level must be over 15%.
• Must have no Diagnostic Trouble Codes present. (Except for P2463 Soot accumulation)
• Engine Coolant Temp must be above 71°C (160°F)
• Brake must not be active
• Accelerator Pedal must be zero
• Soot Load must be over 90%
Maybe you could clear the codes first and then try it...
But since you have over 200k miles, the problem may very well be a malfunctioning DPF but what's weird is you're not getting any DPF codes...
From this page here...
P242F - Diesel Particulate Filter Restriction - Ash Accumulation
P244A - Diesel Particulate Filter Differential Pressure Too Low
P244C - Exhaust Temperature Too Low For Particulate Filter Regeneration, Bank 1
P244D - Exhaust Temperature Too High For Particulate Filter Regeneration, Bank 1
P2452 - Diesel Particulate Filter Pressure Sensor A Circuit
P2452 - Diesel Particulate Filter Pressure Sensor A Circuit
P2453 - Diesel Particulate Filter Pressure Sensor A Circuit Range/Performance
P2454 - Diesel Particulate Filter Pressure Sensor A Circuit Low
P2455 - Diesel Particulate Filter Pressure Sensor A Circuit High
P2456 - Diesel Particulate Filter Pressure Sensor A Circuit Intermittent/Erratic
P2457 - Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Cooler System Performance
P2458 - Diesel Particulate Filter Regeneration Duration
P2459 - Diesel Particulate Filter Regeneration Frequency
P2463 - Diesel Particulate Filter - Soot Accumulation
P246C - Diesel Particulate Filter Restriction - Forced Limited Power
So I guess it could be possible that a couple of sensor malfunctions at the same could put the truck into limp mode.
Since you have a 2017, thought I'd post here this video...
Here's a video from here on a FORscan manual regen.
Here's another video from a Ford Tech using IDS.
Videos just for FYI for new users here...
How do I initiate a Regen with the iDash? (Available on select applications)
- Select “Diagnostics” from the main “MENU”.
- Select “Vehicle” for vehicle diagnostics.
- Select “Stationary Regen” to begin manual stationary regeneration process.
- In order to have selected “Stationary Regen” certain requirements (see list below) must have been met otherwise error alert would have prevented it from being selected.
- Before proceeding with manual regeneration you will have to read and
follow several caution messages by pressing the right arrow button.
This will lead you to Gale Banks Engineering liability disclaimer
message. Must press the down arrow to agree and continue manual regeneration.
• Vehicle must be in Park.
• Fuel Level must be over 15%.
• Must have no Diagnostic Trouble Codes present. (Except for P2463 Soot accumulation)
• Engine Coolant Temp must be above 71°C (160°F)
• Brake must not be active
• Accelerator Pedal must be zero
• Soot Load must be over 90%
Maybe you could clear the codes first and then try it...
But since you have over 200k miles, the problem may very well be a malfunctioning DPF but what's weird is you're not getting any DPF codes...
From this page here...
P242F - Diesel Particulate Filter Restriction - Ash Accumulation
P244A - Diesel Particulate Filter Differential Pressure Too Low
P244C - Exhaust Temperature Too Low For Particulate Filter Regeneration, Bank 1
P244D - Exhaust Temperature Too High For Particulate Filter Regeneration, Bank 1
P2452 - Diesel Particulate Filter Pressure Sensor A Circuit
P2452 - Diesel Particulate Filter Pressure Sensor A Circuit
P2453 - Diesel Particulate Filter Pressure Sensor A Circuit Range/Performance
P2454 - Diesel Particulate Filter Pressure Sensor A Circuit Low
P2455 - Diesel Particulate Filter Pressure Sensor A Circuit High
P2456 - Diesel Particulate Filter Pressure Sensor A Circuit Intermittent/Erratic
P2457 - Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Cooler System Performance
P2458 - Diesel Particulate Filter Regeneration Duration
P2459 - Diesel Particulate Filter Regeneration Frequency
P2463 - Diesel Particulate Filter - Soot Accumulation
P246C - Diesel Particulate Filter Restriction - Forced Limited Power
So I guess it could be possible that a couple of sensor malfunctions at the same could put the truck into limp mode.
Since you have a 2017, thought I'd post here this video...
Here's a video from here on a FORscan manual regen.
Here's another video from a Ford Tech using IDS.
Videos just for FYI for new users here...
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Sorry I didn't see that. Could be a bad MAP or MAF sensor which is resulting in zero boost. You don't have an oiled air filter do you?
P00BD - Mass Or Volume Air Flow A Circuit Range/Performance - Air Flow Too High
Description:
This DTC sets when the measured airflow is 18 percent greater than the calculated airflow for a
calibrated period of time.
Possible Causes:
Charge air cooler (CAC) leak
Intake air system leak between the turbocharger and the intake manifold
Biased mass airflow/intake air temperature (MAF/IAT) sensor
Damaged MAF/IAT sensor
P0069 - MAP - Barometric Pressure Correlation
Description: This DTC sets when the difference between the manifold absolute pressure (MAP) and barometric pressure (BARO) sensors is greater than the maximum calibrated limit.
Possible Causes:
Damaged BARO sensor
Damaged MAP sensor
Slow responding or biased MAP sensor
Slow responding or biased BARO sensor
P061B - Internal Control Module Torque Calculation Performance
Description:
This DTC sets when a calculation error occurred in the PCM.
Possible Causes:
Aftermarket performance products
PCM programming error
Incorrect Tire Size / Axle Ratio Configuration
Damaged Fuel Injector
P2A01 - O2 Sensor Circuit Range/Performance (Bank 1 Sensor 2)
Description: The nitrogen oxides bank 1, sensor 2 (NOx12) module estimates the expected exhaust oxygen (O2)
content during certain fuel, boost and exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) conditions. This DTC sets when the
actual NOx12 sensor O2 signal value is not within the expected range for a calibrated amount of time.
Possible Causes:
Corrosion
Incorrect connections
Contaminated NOx12 sensor
Damaged NOx12 sensor4/10/2020
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Diagnostic Aids:
The presence of this DTC may indicate that the vehicle is operating in derate mode and may experience a
loss of power. After repair, the vehicle may still display a system warning message. Drive the vehicle until
the system warning message has cleared from the instrument cluster message center.
P00BD - Mass Or Volume Air Flow A Circuit Range/Performance - Air Flow Too High
Description:
This DTC sets when the measured airflow is 18 percent greater than the calculated airflow for a
calibrated period of time.
Possible Causes:
Charge air cooler (CAC) leak
Intake air system leak between the turbocharger and the intake manifold
Biased mass airflow/intake air temperature (MAF/IAT) sensor
Damaged MAF/IAT sensor
P0069 - MAP - Barometric Pressure Correlation
Description: This DTC sets when the difference between the manifold absolute pressure (MAP) and barometric pressure (BARO) sensors is greater than the maximum calibrated limit.
Possible Causes:
Damaged BARO sensor
Damaged MAP sensor
Slow responding or biased MAP sensor
Slow responding or biased BARO sensor
P061B - Internal Control Module Torque Calculation Performance
Description:
This DTC sets when a calculation error occurred in the PCM.
Possible Causes:
Aftermarket performance products
PCM programming error
Incorrect Tire Size / Axle Ratio Configuration
Damaged Fuel Injector
P2A01 - O2 Sensor Circuit Range/Performance (Bank 1 Sensor 2)
Description: The nitrogen oxides bank 1, sensor 2 (NOx12) module estimates the expected exhaust oxygen (O2)
content during certain fuel, boost and exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) conditions. This DTC sets when the
actual NOx12 sensor O2 signal value is not within the expected range for a calibrated amount of time.
Possible Causes:
Corrosion
Incorrect connections
Contaminated NOx12 sensor
Damaged NOx12 sensor4/10/2020
233/252
Diagnostic Aids:
The presence of this DTC may indicate that the vehicle is operating in derate mode and may experience a
loss of power. After repair, the vehicle may still display a system warning message. Drive the vehicle until
the system warning message has cleared from the instrument cluster message center.
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Talked to the mechanic and so far they have replaced the map sensor. It was reading 7 psi with the key on engine off.
I guess it is supposed to read 14psi? Any way with engine running it would still read 7psi and would not change.
Also had a hard time getting it to regen it was saying 180 and over loaded but then when commanded to regen it said it didn’t need to. Not sure what is up with that yet.
I guess it is supposed to read 14psi? Any way with engine running it would still read 7psi and would not change.
Also had a hard time getting it to regen it was saying 180 and over loaded but then when commanded to regen it said it didn’t need to. Not sure what is up with that yet.