Notices
2017 - 2022 Super Duty The 2017-2022 Ford F250, F350, F450, F550 & F600 Super Duty Pickup and Chassis Cab
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Likely Cause?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 6, 2022 | 11:57 AM
  #1  
Lincoln05's Avatar
Lincoln05
Thread Starter
|
5th Wheeling
5 Year Member
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 31
Likes: 3
Likely Cause?

CCSB with the 6.2 gasser. 57000 miles. Getting a P0302 misfire code on the second cylinder. In looking things over, I noticed the plug wire has experienced a fair bit of rubbing. See photo. Have others seen this?

Curious if this seems like enough wear to be causing the misfire. The truck actually idles and runs great. I haven’t noticed any loss of power or change in performance. Just the check engine light/code.





 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2022 | 12:02 PM
  #2  
JoeUser's Avatar
JoeUser
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Oct 2022
Posts: 1,821
Likes: 896
From: Dallas Metroplex
It's been my experience with previous gasoline vehicles, that reported misfires are due to a fuel injector problem. If left long enough and not corrected, the excess fuel will foul your catalytic converter (that will have to be replaced at that point).
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2022 | 12:02 PM
  #3  
ToMang07's Avatar
ToMang07
Logistics Pro
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,832
Likes: 668
From: Maine
What am I looking at???
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2022 | 12:20 PM
  #4  
jimzpsd's Avatar
jimzpsd
Cargo Master
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,422
Likes: 722
From: Wisconsin
Club FTE Silver Member

Originally Posted by ToMang07
What am I looking at???
Cylinder #2 spark plug wire, look for the worn spot, looks like a small indentation, just to the left of the number 5
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2022 | 12:29 PM
  #5  
Lincoln05's Avatar
Lincoln05
Thread Starter
|
5th Wheeling
5 Year Member
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 31
Likes: 3
Not the greatest photo. But yes. The cylinder 2 wire. The way it’s routed it is rubbing on the adjacent plastic vent tube. Doesn’t seem practical that it would be shorting out to a piece of plastic.

Kind of hoping it’s an injector, as that would be covered under the warranty. In doing some research, it looks like the ignition coils are only covered up to 50,000 miles under the emissions warranty, but easy to replace.
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2022 | 12:34 PM
  #6  
ToMang07's Avatar
ToMang07
Logistics Pro
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,832
Likes: 668
From: Maine
Have you pulled and checked the plug itself yet?
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2022 | 12:53 PM
  #7  
Ltngdrvr's Avatar
Ltngdrvr
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 5
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 8,453
Likes: 4,952
Originally Posted by ToMang07
Have you pulled and checked the plug itself yet?
And, then swap it with another one of the plug wires and see if the misfire code moves to that cylinder.
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2022 | 05:24 PM
  #8  
Turbo Dog's Avatar
Turbo Dog
Cargo Master
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 3,061
Likes: 39
From: Laramie, WY
That little bit of rub probably isn't going to cause a problem. Look at it in the dark while someone is power braking the engine. Just stand off to the side with the hood open, have them put it in gear with their foot on the brake (use reverse for extra caution) and press the accelerator pedal to put a load on the engine. Peak voltage is low at idle, but if you can increase the pressure in the cylinder it will take more power to jump the gap on the plug. That is when it might find an easier path to ground by jumping out of the wire. If you don't see any sparks you can also listen for the clicking sound it makes.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Dec 6, 2022 | 05:51 PM
  #9  
KU4OJ's Avatar
KU4OJ
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,937
Likes: 1,221
From: Southern Crescent
The 6.2L is a coil-on-plug engine and they have corrosion issues with the coil packs like my old 5.4L F-150 did. The ports on the coil packs will corrode and create issues like the ones you are having. Took me forever to figure it out, truck would skip only at certain RPM and under load, like climbing a hill. Turns out moisture had collected down in the hole where the spark plug and it's boot go and that lead to the corrosion issue. You can't "fix" it, you just need to clean the corrosion out of the coil pack connections as part of your regular maintenance. Like my 5.4L that's the only issue you will likely ever have with this engine.

But the coil-on-plug thing was the tipping point in ordering the 7.3 for me.

 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2022 | 07:08 PM
  #10  
Ltngdrvr's Avatar
Ltngdrvr
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 5
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 8,453
Likes: 4,952
Originally Posted by KU4OJ
The 6.2L is a coil-on-plug engine and they have corrosion issues with the coil packs like my old 5.4L F-150 did. The ports on the coil packs will corrode and create issues like the ones you are having. Took me forever to figure it out, truck would skip only at certain RPM and under load, like climbing a hill. Turns out moisture had collected down in the hole where the spark plug and it's boot go and that lead to the corrosion issue. You can't "fix" it, you just need to clean the corrosion out of the coil pack connections as part of your regular maintenance. Like my 5.4L that's the only issue you will likely ever have with this engine.

But the coil-on-plug thing was the tipping point in ordering the 7.3 for me.
If it has plug wires like the OP's pic shows, then it can't be coil on plug, has to be coil near plug, right?
7.3 is configured that way too, right?
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2022 | 07:14 PM
  #11  
morehouse7's Avatar
morehouse7
Fleet Mechanic
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 1,454
Likes: 606
I am betting you have a coil pack that needs refreshing and is arcing to the block, as mentioned by TDog it will click/tick/snap and you can usually see it in the dark. I just went through this with mine, were arcing out of the coil pack stem.. You can buy the new AC Delco guts for them for 10 bucks a kit online. New resistor, wire and boot. I posted about it here which may be helpful if that's the issue. I bought a new coil pack for each side(they are left and right mounting) and took one out at a time and refreshed them with the kits. Swap the coil pack and see if the code moves. Also worth noting, I changed the first one and almost instantly one on the other side of the engine started doing it.
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2022 | 07:37 PM
  #12  
Just Chilling's Avatar
Just Chilling
Laughing Gas
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 971
Likes: 454
Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
If it has plug wires like the OP's pic shows, then it can't be coil on plug, has to be coil near plug, right?
7.3 is configured that way too, right?
i think the top plug is coil on plug then a wire from coil around manifold to the second plug. But it has been a few years a may be wrong.
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2022 | 07:48 PM
  #13  
KU4OJ's Avatar
KU4OJ
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,937
Likes: 1,221
From: Southern Crescent
Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
If it has plug wires like the OP's pic shows, then it can't be coil on plug, has to be coil near plug, right?
7.3 is configured that way too, right?
The 6.2L has 16 plugs, obviously 2 per cylinder. The upper plug is a coil-on-plug very much like the 5.4L, and moisture gets into the well where the upper plug lives. The coil pack has a second port that runs a rather ordinary spark plug wire to the lower plug and that's what you see in the OP's picture. The wire should be relocated a bit to stop the rubbing. I don't think I'd bother replacing it.

The 7.3L has one coil pack per cylinder, 8 plugs total. The coil packs sit on little brackets on the valve cover away from a lot of heat and can't trap moisture. The only thing unique about the 7.3L spark plug wires are the little heat shields near the plugs. The wires are about a foot long each and all alike so "coil near plug" would be a way to describe it.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
breston
1997 - 2003 F150
2
Oct 2, 2009 04:44 AM
DavisMT
1997 - 2006 Expedition & Navigator
8
Nov 24, 2008 07:41 AM
aa767man
1997 - 2006 Expedition & Navigator
5
Apr 1, 2008 11:24 AM
Ranger GT2
Modular V8 (4.6L, 5.4L)
5
May 9, 2007 03:40 PM
bigdaddyhill71
1997 - 2003 F150
4
Nov 30, 2006 04:25 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:44 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE