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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 08:53 AM
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First, forget a long bed SRW Platinum, they don't have 4K payload, at least none that I looked at did. 3600 or so was what I saw. I have a SRW LB Platinum on order and decided to get an F-450 instead after discovering the payload issue. Unless you want an XLT Screw LB, you have no choice but DRW.

The max I found that an F350 SRW SB can tow is right around 13K GVW 5th wheel without exceeding some rating on the upper trim trucks. My 5th is 43' long and loaded weighs in just under 13K, and set the 2012 F350 King Ranch with 3441 payload over GVWR by 200 pounds. I had to drain the FWT to stay under GVWR of the truck.

Maybe a SRW Lariat with 4500 payload will work if you can find one, but a Platinum, I highly doubt you will find one with enough payload, you will need DRW if you want Platinum trim.

Oh and you will find that with the long bed your front axle weight should remain the same when hitched, not unloaded like it is now by 120 pounds. Whatever hitch you are using is setting the pin back behind the axle. I used a Reese Sidewinder which works with any conventional hitch so it won't change pin placement, it just moves the pivot point back 22" for total cab clearance on a SB, I was able to go past 90* while backing.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 08:55 AM
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What's the difference in the ride quality for a F350 DRW vs a F450 DRW?

Unfortunately, selling the camper is not really an option. I'm 6'4" and this camper is one of the few I can stand up in the front bedroom area without banging my head on the ceiling.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 09:02 AM
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I have towed at 100% of capacity, 80% capacity, and now at 60% capacity. I can tell you that there is a discernible difference and that I am WAY happier at 60%.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by All50States2
What's the difference in the ride quality for a F350 DRW vs a F450 DRW?

Unfortunately, selling the camper is not really an option. I'm 6'4" and this camper is one of the few I can stand up in the front bedroom area without banging my head on the ceiling.
I can't compare a DRW 350, but a SRW. The F-450 hits harder so the bumps have a bit more shock to them, but the 350 bounced all over the place on the same roads. This is with new shocks and springs too. I am considering some bilstiens for the F-450 to help dampen the hits, but overall, I really can't see the ride being much different between them. After all it IS a 9800 pound truck!
 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by All50States2
What's the difference in the ride quality for a F350 DRW vs a F450 DRW?

Unfortunately, selling the camper is not really an option. I'm 6'4" and this camper is one of the few I can stand up in the front bedroom area without banging my head on the ceiling.
Well, you found the trailer you have now that you can stand up in, as many trailers as there are sitting at dealers, you could find another one, and you wouldn't be waiting for an ordered truck. I suggest looking at trailers with a front living room, not so much weight up front on them.
But, your choice.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 09:52 AM
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Shoot over to the 7.3 Godzilla forum and look at the payload thread. If you want over 4,000lbs of payload you could look into a gas truck.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by OBS460
Shoot over to the 7.3 Godzilla forum and look at the payload thread. If you want over 4,000lbs of payload you could look into a gas truck.
Not with that trailer and the amount of towing he will be doing. On paper it works but in the real world, he needs a diesel.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by #1bigmark
Not with that trailer and the amount of towing he will be doing. On paper it works but in the real world, he needs a diesel.
Thats funny. I tow 2,000lbs more than the OP's 5th wheel with a 7.3 gas.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by #1bigmark
Not with that trailer and the amount of towing he will be doing. On paper it works but in the real world, he needs a diesel.
As this turns into a diesel vs gas thread.... Plenty of guys towing this weight with Godzilla. Sure a diesel is probably better but 7.3 will move that camper just fine.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 10:15 AM
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The same truck with a 7.3 will afford you enough payload that you can be within all the weight limits.
The F350 with a 7.3L and 4.30 gears is rated to tow 20,000lbs 5th wheel/gooseneck if optioned correctly.


 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by CheeseheadFord
As this turns into a diesel vs gas thread.... Plenty of guys towing this weight with Godzilla. Sure a diesel is probably better but 7.3 will move that camper just fine.
This ISN'T going to turn into a diesel vs. gas thread.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 10:25 AM
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Yep, the 7.3/4.30 combo pulls this 14k bumper pull with ease, even in the mountains, and the 6200 lb's of payload is a bonus.



 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 10:25 AM
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All I did was offer a possible solution to the payload woes. A lot of people don't like going to a DRW and a diesel eats the difference in payload OP needs.
I even provided proof that it is capable. If you want a diesel and want to be within payload go with a DRW and you won't have to worry about it anymore.
People need to stop spreading "misinformation" that an F450 has more capacity than an F350 in any way.
I get they have larger brakes and larger splined axle shafts in the rear but the F350 DRW beats it in every legal weight capacity. I have pictures to prove that too. The F450 pickup turns tighter yes but they are also harder to get, you will have to pay a premium if you do find one and then deal with the tire balancing and cupping issues. Basically spend a ton on a truck that you will have to immediately invest more money into.
I dont care if you want gas or diesel just understand the consequences of each choice.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by redford
This ISN'T going to turn into a diesel vs. gas thread.
Only if someone said gas is great and diesel sucks.....
 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 10:39 AM
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Too funny, I just posted a response to your question on IRV2......here it is;

Just going to a long bed isn't going to give you the improvement you need IMO. Go dually.

My 2022 F350 DRW has a 14,000 lb GVWR with a stickered 5,453 lb payload, a 9,995 GAWR and max trailer weight rating of 31,300lbs (34,700 with 4.10's); which is a significant difference compared to your current truck. ....but aside from the weight ratings, the 174" WB and DRW's will significantly enhance your towing stability.

You could also look at an F450 as mentioned above as it has a 7' tighter turning radius but is also comes with 4.30 gears which is very steep and not required for your load and the commercial 19.5" tires and wheels are rougher riding and there aren't many choices for all terrain type tires if you care. The F350 DRW is more than enough for your trailer.

I used the Super Duty numbers because that's what I have but a properly equipped Ram or GM 3500 DRW will do the job just fine as well.
 
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