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So why do so many diesel owners let their trucks idle so much, talking about when they refuel, sitting there talking to someone, even leaving it running and locked when in a store. Just curious.
Only time I let mine idle for a few minutes is is just coming off an interstate after running at speed or towing. I'll let it idle for about 5 min. To let the turbo cool before shutting it off. Keeps turbo bearings happy.
Diesels take a long time to warm up. We like to let the turbos cool before shutting down because the oil stops going to the bearings. I never shut mine off when getting fuel. Its hard on motors starting and stopping all the time. Chicks dig it.
Like the posts above, I idle mine only to cool it down. I shut it off when it reaches 205°F. I'll also idle it a bit if I have to stop an active regen.
The other day I was refueling my truck and on the other side of me was another 11 to 16 gen Super Duty idling as the owner filled his tank. I assumed he was stock because I didn't smell any diesel exhaust fumes but who knows. To me, idling not only wastes fuel, but it's bad for the EGR cooler. But with that said, I will idle when EGT1 is above 400 degrees or if I arrive at my destination while the truck was in active regen to not only cool down EGT1 (the turbo), but to get the regen to stop and get the extra fuel out of the combustion chambers so it doesn't leak past the rings into the oil. I come down a steep hill just before home so my EGTs are cool so there's no need to idle my truck when I get home from work.
But I do start my truck just before I leave for work now because the nights are getting cooler and during the winter, I will start her earlier, especially on really cold mornings to get the oil warmed up and flowing. On the way up the steep hill, I keep it under 2k RPMs and drive slow until the oil reaches 100 degrees. I learned that here so that's what I do. Plus about getting EGT1 to at least 400 degrees and idling the truck when at destination during an active regen.
So why do so many diesel owners let their trucks idle so much, talking about when they refuel, sitting there talking to someone, even leaving it running and locked when in a store. Just curious.
I idle mine for comfort (heater or A/C) or if I've been towing heavy like others have stated to cool things down.
Some diesel owners like the coal rollers with the coffee can exhaust tips (think Dodge) just like to hear their truck run, and usually have straight pipes as well. I put them in same category as the ones who fill up & leave their stereos blasting for everyone in a half mile radius to hear. Totally ridiculous.
The fewer the heat cycles the greater the longevity. If you dont understand the concept, the diesel may not be for you
I’ll admit, I didn’t think about this… when I think about idling these diesels I was thinking about all of the emissions added on. I try not to idle. Like others, I really only idle when letting the EGT’s cool down. Besides this, if extreme heat or cold and someone is in the vehicle, then yeah… but I did add a high idle switch so for those moments I could let it idle high. Even with this switch though, I use it as a last resort. I have gotten to where I will even park at restaurants and go in (even for take out) rather than sit in a drive thru. I cut my truck off while fueling up too.
But, this is my first diesel… so I’m still learning. Seems the emissions stuff makes it more complicated though…
The fewer the heat cycles the greater the longevity. If you dont understand the concept, the diesel may not be for you
That concept isn't a diesel thing it holds true for all engines. That said, your engine isn't going to cool down enough during a fuel stop to matter. When you twist the key it will fire up on a hot, wet start. Dry starts are considered severe service for many engines although it isn't specified as such in our owners manuals. A dry start occurs after the engine has not run for several days.
These things don't matter a whole lot as our engines, diesel or gas, with a resonable amount of maintenance will outlive the vehicles they're installed in anyway.
The fewer the heat cycles the greater the longevity. If you dont understand the concept, the diesel may not be for you
And the starters ain't cheap, if I'm gonna be just a few minutes running in to get a coffee or whatever I let her idle. I do idle after towing until my oil temp hits 195 or so, never leave until the oil temp gets to 100.
I really wish I had an EGT gauge like I did in my 7.3 , I never shut down until it got below 350 & that seemed to work pretty good for 380k miles.
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