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I have an opportunity tomorrow to buy a very nice 1986 F250 4x4 that is in good condition. It has no rust and the body seems to be in good shape, no dents or dings. Motor looks good, carpet in good condition. Everything looks really good on this truck but my concern is the mileage. The dealer says it has 81k original mileage but the Carfax says that the odometer may not be original mileage. It shows the history of the truck but there's a huge gap between around 2001-2015 with no history. I don't think there is a 100% sure fire way to find the true mileage. I did read that vehicles after 10 years old doesn't have to claim accurate mileage. One of the owners of the truck filed for a "Not original mileage" title for the truck. So, my question is would you roll the dice and get this truck or pass on it? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
It really doesn't matter too much with the mileage. Its an old truck. If it has 181,000 and has been taken care of and parts have been replaced along the way, it will be a good truck that will have problems once in awhile. If it is a truck that has sat around all it's life in a garage, and only has 81k miles on it, it will still have problems, more than likely more problems than the 181k truck that was taken care of.
Age makes seals and gaskets hard with age. So the 81k truck is still going to have oil leaks, coolant leaks, sticking brakes, etc. If it has no rust, that is the biggest thing to look for.
I dont really go by mileage as a end all be all but if the truck looks clean on the outside, motor looks clean outside and in, oil & coolant clean? then I go by the price.
Do I feel the truck that I am looking at is worth the money they are asking to me?
My truck I feel I paid $300 to much but for $800 for a flare side you know you are not getting truck with out some problems.
I was hoping to drive it home but after a vary short test drive I saw that was not going to happen if I bought it.
Lets just say when I did get it home on a trailer and started looking it over better it was best to do a full cab off frame rebuild.
Again a $800 truck so what are you going to get.
So only you can answer for the money is it worth it?
Dave ----
Thanks guys, appreciate it. If I get this, it will be my daily driver. I'm trading my 2011 Chevy for it--it's a rust bucket! I'll never buy another Chevy again...unless it's 1972 and older
I have an 82 with "42k km" on it as it wraps at the 6th digit, my guestimate is 142k km because the drivetrain is in way to good a condition for 242k km but the body needed way more work than 42k could explain.
Just have a look at the trasnmission, drive shaft and rear diff, if they're in good shape you're probably fine.
You know I dont know how many miles are on my truck as the speedo did not work when I got it on the road, the motor was from something else as the new truck head pipe did not fit the EXH manifold but it had to be many as the T18 that was in the truck was trashed pretty good to the point I replaced it with a NP435.
I did not rebuild the motor, just a compression test when I first got it and a set of plugs that took care of the miss it had during the road test, or the rear axle.
I just came back from a 60 mile round trip to a cruise in that was either canceled or later in the day?
But that would be short for when I take the truck to work as it is 40 miles 1 way and will do that for a week. If my math is right that is 400 miles in 5 days.
2 weeks ago I went to a show 50 miles 1 way and I would drive it anywhere as I trust it.
My other driver is a 02 Dodge Durango with 265K on the clock I bought new. I would drive it anywhere also. During the summer took it to Disney for a wedding from Raleigh NC
So as long as they are taken care of, service records help here, the miles dont bother me.
Dave ----
Thanks guys, appreciate it. If I get this, it will be my daily driver. I'm trading my 2011 Chevy for it--it's a rust bucket! I'll never buy another Chevy again...unless it's 1972 and older
That could be a plan with merit. Have a somewhat newer vehicle that you can't work on yourself and have to pay a shop to work on it all the time with scan tools. Or get a older truck like this that you can work on yourself and spend the money on parts instead of paying a shop.
I have an 82 with "42k km" on it as it wraps at the 6th digit, my guestimate is 142k km because the drivetrain is in way to good a condition for 242k km but the body needed way more work than 42k could explain.
You missed the newer odometer by only a year. In 1983, the Canadian market trucks got the extra digit, or "Million Km" odometers, as Ford called them. At least then you knew what the actual mileage was...if the truck was all still original at least.
PS: If anybody in the US wants a 6 digit odometer, you can swap in a speedometer from a medium duty truck. Just adjust it to your current mileage, and then it'll be accurate. They're usually pretty cheap at the junkyard if you can find one that has the bigger trucks.
Like has been said, without any kind of verifiable documentation, it's a guess at best on vehicles this old. Go by overall condition and expect to have to throw some money at it from time to time as old stuff breaks. My '85 shows just over 26K on the odo, and given the spectacular condition of the original interior (next to no wear on the seats, carpet is excellent, etc.) my gut tells me that there should only be a "1" in front of that 26 as opposed to a "2" or "3". All that said, assuming that 126K is correct, it still needs tending to more often than my DD simply because it's 37+ years old. I could use it as a daily in a pinch (I always have a backup vehicle because I drive older stuff), but for me it's not practical or economical.
Compression test and a borescope will tell you a ton about the engine. Good compression is obvious The borescope should show cylinder condition and may tell how many times it has been rebuilt by the oversize stamped into the pistons.
You may also see lots of wear on the corner of the brake pedal, if it is lightly worn, then the miles maybe that low.
Low miles and worn brake pad could be a lot of city driving. Lot of short stops and traffic.
Just like high miles and no ware on pad could be all high way driving. Or low miles and no pad ware could high way used a few times a year over its life.
My 02 DD has 256k on the clock and no pad ware. Most of that is high way pulling a car trailer.
And for a 20 year old truck is in pretty good shape.
So you need to check everything and judge from there if it is worth the asking price to you?
Dave ----
You may also see lots of wear on the corner of the brake pedal, if it is lightly worn, then the miles maybe that low.
One little caveat:
Some used car dealers will replace a worn brake pedal pad, so it's not always a valid indicator of overall condition. If metal underneath the pad is showing, it's one of the little things that stand out. It's not necessarily unscrupulous, but if the pad looks brand new, I'd be suspicious.