Dealer Allocations
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5th Wheeling
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Dealer Allocations
I have a small dealer in my town willing to accept the xplan on a 2023 order. What would happen if I place the order the first day the order banks open and he doesn't have enough allocations?
Would my truck just not get built in 2023. Why would ford allow the order to be placed if the dealership doesn't have the allocations? Sorry if this has been discussed already.
Would my truck just not get built in 2023. Why would ford allow the order to be placed if the dealership doesn't have the allocations? Sorry if this has been discussed already.
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I don't think this answer is accurate. If we are talking about the 2022 Super Duty, he may be correct as they on build out for the model year. But the question is for the new model year 2023 which opens Oct 27/22. Allocation for each dealer is usually based on the previous years sales. And it is a monthly number. Not sure if it is total sales or for that model. The calculation is not usually known to the general public. You are correct that the customer should talk to the specific dealer about what his allocation would likely be. And what dealer retail priority code he will give you for your build could be important. Also, it is important to know the constraints on your model and order appropriately. And get the order and deal written down so there are no surprises when the truck comes in.
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I don't think this answer is accurate. If we are talking about the 2022 Super Duty, he may be correct as they on build out for the model year. But the question is for the new model year 2023 which opens Oct 27/22. Allocation for each dealer is usually based on the previous years sales. And it is a monthly number. Not sure if it is total sales or for that model. The calculation is not usually known to the general public. You are correct that the customer should talk to the specific dealer about what his allocation would likely be. And what dealer retail priority code he will give you for your build could be important. Also, it is important to know the constraints on your model and order appropriately. And get the order and deal written down so there are no surprises when the truck comes in.
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Maybe we are talking about the same thing. The dealer can take the order. When the order is taken, Ford sends an email accepting the order. It will not build the order until the dealer has an allocation and the build is not constrained. And just because FORD will allow the order to be placed, does not mean that the order will be built. Lots of unscheduled orders at the end of the model year.
When you say the dealer can't place an order without an allocation, that is not correct. Allocation is monthly.
When you say the dealer can't place an order without an allocation, that is not correct. Allocation is monthly.
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It sounds like this may be changing for 2023... Granger Ford has already stated how many allocations they are expecting for the entire model year run. I'm guessing this is based on conversations they have had with Ford.
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Things do change and anything is possible. But I follow Tim Bartz on YT from Long McArthur and where he talks about what is going, the nuts of bolts of allocation. He is quite clear when talking about ordering, production etc, every month gets a number for allocation. Because some months they run out of allocation, and other months, it is rolled over. Behind the scenes, the regional managers might be talking to the dealership and talking yearly production numbers and that dealers likely yearly allocation but the actual number in the computer is a monthly number. Also, sometimes a dealer can be awarded additional allocation for certain things. All the information is usually hidden and not available to the general public.
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I am in the same boat.
I would advise ordering from a large dealer AND your small local dealer.
I have been buying from my local dealer for 24 years. Somewhere around 35 trucks and Expeditions.
This year however, I am breaking tradition and ordering from the local guy and the big city. The big dealer delivered me 2 F450s in 4 months. The local one has not delivered any and it has been 11 months.
Worst case you are out 500 or 1000 bucks, but it beats the hell out of stewing over where your truck is. My dealer is my neighbor and good friend, too. S#@@#* times.
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I would advise ordering from a large dealer AND your small local dealer.
I have been buying from my local dealer for 24 years. Somewhere around 35 trucks and Expeditions.
This year however, I am breaking tradition and ordering from the local guy and the big city. The big dealer delivered me 2 F450s in 4 months. The local one has not delivered any and it has been 11 months.
Worst case you are out 500 or 1000 bucks, but it beats the hell out of stewing over where your truck is. My dealer is my neighbor and good friend, too. S#@@#* times.
(Not sure I put the right amount of characters in my edited word.
.... )
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From reading the 2023 Granger thread I understood it to be a guestimate of what they were expecting to be able to have built, I don't think they know for sure how many they're going to get yet anyway. They were basing their allocation on last years plus what they were fold from Ford regarding allocation so they SHOULD be close as of their understanding today but as we found out last year the way the allocations are done can change daily.
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I am in the same boat.
I would advise ordering from a large dealer AND your small local dealer.
I have been buying from my local dealer for 24 years. Somewhere around 35 trucks and Expeditions.
This year however, I am breaking tradition and ordering from the local guy and the big city. The big dealer delivered me 2 F450s in 4 months. The local one has not delivered any and it has been 11 months.
Worst case you are out 500 or 1000 bucks, but it beats the hell out of stewing over where your truck is. My dealer is my neighbor and good friend, too. S#@@#* times.
(Not sure I put the right amount of characters in my edited word..... )
I would advise ordering from a large dealer AND your small local dealer.
I have been buying from my local dealer for 24 years. Somewhere around 35 trucks and Expeditions.
This year however, I am breaking tradition and ordering from the local guy and the big city. The big dealer delivered me 2 F450s in 4 months. The local one has not delivered any and it has been 11 months.
Worst case you are out 500 or 1000 bucks, but it beats the hell out of stewing over where your truck is. My dealer is my neighbor and good friend, too. S#@@#* times.
(Not sure I put the right amount of characters in my edited word.
.... )
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I had intended to trade my 2020 in on a 23 when I bought it. But with the way things are now I don’t think I am willing to pay the price increase on a new truck. If I understand right I can’t even get a xlt tremor and I want another tremor, but don’t want get the lariat.
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