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Old Oct 3, 2022 | 07:07 AM
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2023 order guide

I have read that the Build on the Ford site doesn't come out for months after the order banks open up. When do you think the order guide will be posted so I can at least see what options are available. I have a dealer willing to accept xplan. Thanks
 
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Old Oct 3, 2022 | 07:26 AM
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Order banks open October 20th, and the order guides usually come out within a couple days of that.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2022 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Ford8502
Order banks open October 20th, and the order guides usually come out within a couple days of that.
I thought it was the 17th?
 
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Old Oct 3, 2022 | 07:40 AM
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Dealer told me the 20th
 
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Old Oct 3, 2022 | 08:08 AM
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I think the guide is out on the 17th so that orders can be placed on the 20th.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2022 | 08:46 AM
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Last I saw the order banks got bumped from the 17th to 20th. Not sure when the order guide will be available. (Watch the BOF for these.) Who knows when Fords build site will update…
 
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Old Oct 3, 2022 | 09:24 AM
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I would think the order guide would hopefully come out a couple days before the order banks. If not, how would you know what to order? Lol.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2022 | 09:55 AM
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I follow Tim Bartz from Long McArthur on YT who has a livestream every tuesday and he talks clearly on everything FORD. The order guides are usually out close to the open of the order banks. If it is not out by the day of the order banks opening, the only way to know is to talk with your dealer/salesman who can be go onto the computer and walk you thru the options as if you are ordering. The build and price on the FORD website is another resource, but he says that FORD has said that they are trying to have the new year's model up by the day of the order banks open, but he laughed when reading the memo and said up to now, that has never happened. At the end of the day, these things might be available, and they might not. Another issue, is noone knows how long the order banks will be open for as many are looking at the Maverick order banks which were open for 1 week before they closed. A factor that some do not seem aware of, the priority an order gets can be decided by the order date. Not the priority code, but it can put one order ahead of another with the same code, or FORD might want to clean up old orders and build them and give it a priority 2 code. I should note that some options/packages might not be available to spring as noted in some of the literature that I have read. Another thing to note is the constraints that pertain to your model (in this case Super Duty), if you order something that has a limited availability, you reduce the chances that your order will be selected for production. I would advise you to ask your dealer/salesman, or watch Tim Bartz as he talks about these things. Good luck.
 
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Inventory forecasts are what dictate how many orders can be placed. Once that threshold is met, doesn't make any sense having them open since they can't be fulfilled. Welcome to the New World Order. was looking at a story about how all the ships that were backed up at the LA port are now sitting empty in Hong Kong waiting to be loaded, but nothing is there to load since China shut the entire manufacturing hub down.

The hardest part in all this is the time it takes to bring a factory back to life. All those old US factories that sat vacant for decades have to be torn down and rebuilt, remachined, from scratch, and with the way the government works with permitting, and EPA involvement and OSHA and everything else, what takes China a couple months, take the US a year or two. Who knows, in the end this may all work out for the better by bringing manufacturing back home, but the cost will be high to the consumers. Are we willing to pay for it?
 
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It will be interesting if Ford has the SD Build/Price site updated soon, but I doubt it. For example, the F150 order guides were out in July, and there is still no '23 build/price site for them.
 
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If it is not out by the day of the order banks opening, the only way to know is to talk with your dealer/salesman who can be go onto the computer and walk you thru the options as if you are ordering. .
Most sales people have no clue how to turn the computer on, let alone find what options are available with what trim.
 
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The 22 order banks opened mid March 2021. By the time I placed my order May 24, 2021, the Ford Build site was still 21 MY… I doubt the 23 build page will be up the day the order banks open. But yes, the order guides “should” be. And yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised to see some options as late availability… and most likely some items limited or canceled.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2022 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by acdii
Inventory forecasts are what dictate how many orders can be placed. Once that threshold is met, doesn't make any sense having them open since they can't be fulfilled. Welcome to the New World Order. was looking at a story about how all the ships that were backed up at the LA port are now sitting empty in Hong Kong waiting to be loaded, but nothing is there to load since China shut the entire manufacturing hub down.

The hardest part in all this is the time it takes to bring a factory back to life. All those old US factories that sat vacant for decades have to be torn down and rebuilt, remachined, from scratch, and with the way the government works with permitting, and EPA involvement and OSHA and everything else, what takes China a couple months, take the US a year or two. Who knows, in the end this may all work out for the better by bringing manufacturing back home, but the cost will be high to the consumers. Are we willing to pay for it?
We better be prepared regardless of cost...at this point we are a SLAVE TO CHINA...WAKE UP PEOPLE....
 
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Old Oct 4, 2022 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by acdii
Inventory forecasts are what dictate how many orders can be placed. Once that threshold is met, doesn't make any sense having them open since they can't be fulfilled. Welcome to the New World Order. was looking at a story about how all the ships that were backed up at the LA port are now sitting empty in Hong Kong waiting to be loaded, but nothing is there to load since China shut the entire manufacturing hub down.

The hardest part in all this is the time it takes to bring a factory back to life. All those old US factories that sat vacant for decades have to be torn down and rebuilt, remachined, from scratch, and with the way the government works with permitting, and EPA involvement and OSHA and everything else, what takes China a couple months, take the US a year or two. Who knows, in the end this may all work out for the better by bringing manufacturing back home, but the cost will be high to the consumers. Are we willing to pay for it?

You are correct that if ALL parts were to be manufactured in the USA, the cost would be much higher. Even if you wanted to to it, it is impossible. With the US seasonally adjusted unemployment rate at 3.7%, where would you get the workers. While full employment is a theoretical number, most economists would agree that 3.7% is full employment. And with the vehicle manufacurer's being a profit making entity, there is no reason to build the same vehicle at a much higher price(with less able to afford to purchase them), to make the same amount of profit. But I digress, this is not anything about the order guide.

 
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