2023 order guide
Fleet Mechanic
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You are correct that if ALL parts were to be manufactured in the USA, the cost would be much higher. Even if you wanted to to it, it is impossible. With the US seasonally adjusted unemployment rate at 3.7%, where would you get the workers. While full employment is a theoretical number, most economists would agree that 3.7% is full employment. And with the vehicle manufacurer's being a profit making entity, there is no reason to build the same vehicle at a much higher price(with less able to afford to purchase them), to make the same amount of profit. But I digress, this is not anything about the order guide.
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You are correct that if ALL parts were to be manufactured in the USA, the cost would be much higher. Even if you wanted to to it, it is impossible. With the US seasonally adjusted unemployment rate at 3.7%, where would you get the workers. While full employment is a theoretical number, most economists would agree that 3.7% is full employment. And with the vehicle manufacurer's being a profit making entity, there is no reason to build the same vehicle at a much higher price(with less able to afford to purchase them), to make the same amount of profit. But I digress, this is not anything about the order guide.
More Turbo
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I don't think you guys really understood my post. First, the comment I was replying to directly said "US factories". Second, vehicle manufacturers are profit driven entities. While from a USA country perspective, it might be a good thing not to be reliant on China, but what are you saying...having the government mandating FORD (and others) abandon their supply chain in CHINA? Third, the numbers show that the US is at full employment and cannot just absorb new manufacturing facilities with a need for skilled and trained workers. Fourth, this post thread is about Order Guides for the 2023 Super Duty, not about the economic and political issues regarding manufacturing which is a complicated issue.
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I have never seen so many places with help wanted signs posted… and it’s clear when you go in and there is hardly anyone working, these places need help. 3.7%…. maybe they put the decimal in the wrong place but that number doesn’t appear to be true. There are plenty of people that can work…
Fleet Mechanic
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I have never seen so many places with help wanted signs posted… and it’s clear when you go in and there is hardly anyone working, these places need help. 3.7%…. maybe they put the decimal in the wrong place but that number doesn’t appear to be true. There are plenty of people that can work…
Lead Driver
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Don't think all of those help wanted signs are real anymore. Look up "ghost jobs". Some places may have the signs out for jobs they have no intention of filling. I know a few people who have been looking for work and have never received call for an interview and the places have not hired anyone. Welcome to the new normal.
Anywho, I agree… this thread is about the order guide. Sorry for my part of the derailment.
More Turbo
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Here's what will be missing from the 2023 order guide. An option for a nearly 100% American made truck. I'd love to see Ford offer a fully "Made in USA" model, probably similar to the XL as far as features goes. Bare bones but all sourced from American parts manufacturers. Higher price obviously, but would we be willing to consider something like that as consumers? I would.
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Here's what will be missing from the 2023 order guide. An option for a nearly 100% American made truck. I'd love to see Ford offer a fully "Made in USA" model, probably similar to the XL as far as features goes. Bare bones but all sourced from American parts manufacturers. Higher price obviously, but would we be willing to consider something like that as consumers? I would.
I would love a Made in USA vehicle but so would the people trying to claim this $7500 EV tax credit and hardly any of the vehicles have enough made in North America parts to qualify for it.
I dont see why made in USA has to cost much more. All the electrical parts make it cost more. They could save even more money by leaving out a pile of plastic and a mile of wire.
I miss my metal dash in my 1979 F250. I could stick my magnetic bottle opener to the glove box door.
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