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Old Sep 30, 2022 | 09:36 AM
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2k Pro Power ??

Has anyone seen whether the 2k pro power requires the engine to be running all the time like it does on the f150?
 
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Old Sep 30, 2022 | 09:42 AM
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Yes, the engine needs to be running.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2022 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by tkoden
Has anyone seen whether the 2k pro power requires the engine to be running all the time like it does on the f150?
Yes, it does. It was mentioned in the video.

The SD does not have a battery pack to draw power from.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2022 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
Yes, it does. It was mentioned in the video.

The SD does not have a battery pack to draw power from.

Bummer I guess I missed that in the video. Oh well, I guess I will wait for the 2024 to come out and hopefully have a battery pack like my powerboost. After growing up in the trades and now doing construction and project management at industrial sites I really believe a system like I have on my powerboost would be a true game changer for the industry. I don't care for a "hybrid" super duty but I want to be able to run the AC all day long when sitting at the job site and only have the engine run for about 5 minutes per hour and be able to power tools as needed without having the engine on all day long burning expensive fuel and adding wear and tear to the engine internals.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2022 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
Yes, the engine needs to be running.
This is why this doesn’t make sense to me… just my opinion. Why not have a dedicated generator? Beats running a hundred thousand dollar truck all day. Plus you can actually move a generator around to where you need it.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2022 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tkoden
Bummer I guess I missed that in the video. Oh well, I guess I will wait for the 2024 to come out and hopefully have a battery pack like my powerboost. After growing up in the trades and now doing construction and project management at industrial sites I really believe a system like I have on my powerboost would be a true game changer for the industry. I don't care for a "hybrid" super duty but I want to be able to run the AC all day long when sitting at the job site and only have the engine run for about 5 minutes per hour and be able to power tools as needed without having the engine on all day long burning expensive fuel and adding wear and tear to the engine internals.
You'll be waiting longer than 2024. Ford has said that they don't plan on making the SD a hybrid or EV in the foreseeable future.

A 2-3kw generator would be much better for powering tools, it's portable, and cheaper too.

JMHO
 
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Old Sep 30, 2022 | 10:03 AM
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Agreed. A separate generator is cheaper in both cost and gas.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2022 | 10:04 AM
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Those little 2kw portable generators (like Honda) are very quiet and efficient, probably would use less fuel than a Super Duty.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2022 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ATC Crazy

A 2-3kw generator would be much better for powering tools, it's portable, and cheaper too.

JMHO
Fully agree. I do a lot of work onsite where I will sit in my truck for hours doing paperwork but have to be onsite for technical assistance / supervision so I can't go back to a hotel or my office. My previous truck was a 2020 F150 3.5 EB and I would burn between 1/8 and 1/4 tank of fuel sitting in my truck all day with the engine on so I could run the AC and power/change my laptop. That was a huge waste. With my current powerboost truck I don't even see a discernable drop in the fuel gage sitting in my truck doing the same tasks. I see so many SD and 1/2 ton trucks at construction sites along the freeways with the engines idling all day long to keep the AC on. I can't imagine how much extra that costs those companies in fuel and maintenance. I don't think there is any use for a hybrid super duty but I could easily see a SD that has a decent size battery (maybe one between the 7.2kw powerboost and the 9kw lightning) that would be charged by a generator attached to the engine but not tied into the powertrain.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2022 | 11:32 AM
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Fully agree. I do a lot of work onsite where I will sit in my truck for hours doing paperwork but have to be onsite for technical assistance / supervision so I can't go back to a hotel or my office. My previous truck was a 2020 F150 3.5 EB and I would burn between 1/8 and 1/4 tank of fuel sitting in my truck all day with the engine on so I could run the AC and power/change my laptop. That was a huge waste. With my current powerboost truck I don't even see a discernable drop in the fuel gage sitting in my truck doing the same tasks. I see so many SD and 1/2 ton trucks at construction sites along the freeways with the engines idling all day long to keep the AC on. I can't imagine how much extra that costs those companies in fuel and maintenance. I don't think there is any use for a hybrid super duty but I could easily see a SD that has a decent size battery (maybe one between the 7.2kw powerboost and the 9kw lightning) that would be charged by a generator attached to the engine but not tied into the powertrain.
That would be a very expensive add-on.

I think that companies supplying vehicles to people who sit in them idling for 6-12hrs a day need to rethink buying a SD for that task. There are plenty of cars and small CUV/SUV's that would fit that task much better. Even a Maverick/Ranger if they need to haul around road cones and transits. I never see those types of guys haul or tow anything anyways...
 
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Old Sep 30, 2022 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by tkoden
Fully agree. I do a lot of work onsite where I will sit in my truck for hours doing paperwork but have to be onsite for technical assistance / supervision so I can't go back to a hotel or my office. My previous truck was a 2020 F150 3.5 EB and I would burn between 1/8 and 1/4 tank of fuel sitting in my truck all day with the engine on so I could run the AC and power/change my laptop. That was a huge waste. With my current powerboost truck I don't even see a discernable drop in the fuel gage sitting in my truck doing the same tasks. I see so many SD and 1/2 ton trucks at construction sites along the freeways with the engines idling all day long to keep the AC on. I can't imagine how much extra that costs those companies in fuel and maintenance. I don't think there is any use for a hybrid super duty but I could easily see a SD that has a decent size battery (maybe one between the 7.2kw powerboost and the 9kw lightning) that would be charged by a generator attached to the engine but not tied into the powertrain.

if your not towing or towing under 10k this is where the lighting will really save business money.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2022 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tkoden
Fully agree. I do a lot of work onsite where I will sit in my truck for hours doing paperwork but have to be onsite for technical assistance / supervision so I can't go back to a hotel or my office. My previous truck was a 2020 F150 3.5 EB and I would burn between 1/8 and 1/4 tank of fuel sitting in my truck all day with the engine on so I could run the AC and power/change my laptop. That was a huge waste. With my current powerboost truck I don't even see a discernable drop in the fuel gage sitting in my truck doing the same tasks. I see so many SD and 1/2 ton trucks at construction sites along the freeways with the engines idling all day long to keep the AC on. I can't imagine how much extra that costs those companies in fuel and maintenance. I don't think there is any use for a hybrid super duty but I could easily see a SD that has a decent size battery (maybe one between the 7.2kw powerboost and the 9kw lightning) that would be charged by a generator attached to the engine but not tied into the powertrain.
I don't know much about the PowerBoost F-150, is the AC compressor actually powered by electricity or is it just cycling the gas engine to run the compressor to keep the cabin at a specific temperature?
 
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Old Sep 30, 2022 | 12:19 PM
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If you don’t use power everyday but sometimes need it on a job the 2k inverter makes sense. One less thing to pack around. We have a 2k generator on the work van but my truck I have a 2k inverter I can fire up if needed. Also ripped out the factory inverter and put a 750w for my 2 Milwaukee chargers. I just hope fords 2k inverter isn’t as finicky as the crappy 400w they use now.

plus, I saw a 20amp written on the inverter in one of the videos. 120v x 20amp = 2400w
 
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Old Sep 30, 2022 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tkoden
Has anyone seen whether the 2k pro power requires the engine to be running all the time like it does on the f150?
2Kw would be 200amps per hour of consumption....2 truck batteries would probally last 30 minutes before the battery dies.

 
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Old Oct 3, 2022 | 09:44 PM
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Yep, the only use case is for someone who needs the AC power infrequently and for very short durations; otherwise it makes little sense to run an expensive truck engine to do the same job as a tiny Honda generator.

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