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Old Sep 14, 2022 | 10:03 PM
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Goofy Switchblade Key

I don’t have push button start, but have the switchblade key. I think I’d like just a normal key to go on my keychain with my Fob. Is that something I can get? Do they have to be programmed, or with the fob on the key ring are they close enough to work properly?
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Old Sep 14, 2022 | 11:18 PM
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Key is programmed, don't know if the fob being in close proximity is enough to make a stand alone key work with your fob.

And, yes, switchblade key is a royal PITA, always opening up in your pocket.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2022 | 01:12 AM
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I don't think there's a chip inside the key. I believe the fob just needs to be in the car. You could take the key out of your fob and somehow attach a key head to it for your keychain.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2022 | 03:39 AM
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I don't think there's a chip inside the key. I believe the fob just needs to be in the car. You could take the key out of your fob and somehow attach a key head to it for your keychain.
Most modern vehicles with a chipped physical key use a sensor in the ignition switch that senses the key. This is also why most vehicles with a physical key don’t have a special hidden slot to stick the key in when the battery in it dies like push button start vehicles have. The sensor is already in the ignition switch.

So no, these trucks with a physical key won’t take a non-chipped key in the ignition to start it.

I bought a small blank, plain chipped key (no buttons) that is supposed to work with these trucks. I could not get it programmed using my two factory keys. Maybe I’m doing something wrong, but I am going to take it to a locksmith that programs keys and see if they can get it to work, because I hate the massive OEM key fob of these trucks. I’ll report back if it works.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2022 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
Most modern vehicles with a chipped physical key use a sensor in the ignition switch that senses the key. This is also why most vehicles with a physical key don’t have a special hidden slot to stick the key in when the battery in it dies like push button start vehicles have. The sensor is already in the ignition switch.

So no, these trucks with a physical key won’t take a non-chipped key in the ignition to start it.

I bought a small blank, plain chipped key (no buttons) that is supposed to work with these trucks. I could not get it programmed using my two factory keys. Maybe I’m doing something wrong, but I am going to take it to a locksmith that programs keys and see if they can get it to work, because I hate the massive OEM key fob of these trucks. I’ll report back if it works.

Did you use Forscan to program them? I have done several on steel body 6.7's using Forscan.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2022 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by William Owens
I don’t have push button start, but have the switchblade key. I think I’d like just a normal key to go on my keychain with my Fob. Is that something I can get? Do they have to be programmed, or with the fob on the key ring are they close enough to work properly?
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The huge "switch blade key" was ridiculous in so many ways and did not want that contraption in my pocket. For a while I was second guessing my decision to not go with an upper level trim just because of the key. Then, in searching how others deal with this life changing issue of the huge key, I decided to just chuck the key under the center lower dash cubby after shutting the engine off and use the key pad exclusively for access. Works perfectly! (BTW, used double stick tape to keep the little rubber liner thingy on the floor of the cubby so the key does not just drop onto the floor)...
 
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Old Sep 15, 2022 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigfin
The huge "switch blade key" was ridiculous in so many ways and did not want that contraption in my pocket. For a while I was second guessing my decision to not go with an upper level trim just because of the key. Then, in searching how others deal with this life changing issue of the huge key, I decided to just chuck the key under the center lower dash cubby after shutting the engine off and use the key pad exclusively for access. Works perfectly! (BTW, used double stick tape to keep the little rubber liner thingy on the floor of the cubby so the key does not just drop onto the floor)...
I don't understand, or you don't understand, but if the key is stashed in the bottom of console cubby, what are you using to start the truck???
Trucks with the switchblade key need the physical key to start the truck, to turn the ignition switch.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2022 | 09:50 AM
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It would be nice if they offered a key only option… but I have gotten pretty used to the switchblade style key fob. I don’t have many other keys/items on my key chain so it’s not a problem carrying it in my pocket. But I do love the keypad… that was something that came with the XLT Value pack and I didn’t really care about… now I wouldn’t want one without it!
 
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Old Sep 15, 2022 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
I don't understand, or you don't understand, but if the key is stashed in the bottom of console cubby, what are you using to start the truck???
Trucks with the switchblade key need the physical key to start the truck, to turn the ignition switch.
He uses the key to start the truck, then stores it in the cubby when he gets out, rather than carrying it in his pocket. And then uses the door keypad to unlock and enter the truck.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2022 | 10:34 AM
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I believe the switchblade style of key needs to be in close proximity to the ignition on the column. From what I've seen, the receiver antenna is around the ignition switch hole. This may be why the plain key doesn't work, where the "push-button start" fob has much greater range. Not sure if it's the fob, the receiver system or both...

One *may* be able to find a way to have the fob near the ignition and have the plain key work. I guess it would be trial and error finding the right place/distance.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2022 | 11:09 AM
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He uses the key to start the truck, then stores it in the cubby when he gets out, rather than carrying it in his pocket. And then uses the door keypad to unlock and enter the truck.
Bingo!...Life is good! Cheers!...
 
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Old Sep 15, 2022 | 11:33 AM
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When I went to have a spare made for
my switchblade style they tested it and it had no chip if that helps
 
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Old Sep 15, 2022 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DeputyDiesel
When I went to have a spare made for
my switchblade style they tested it and it had no chip if that helps
The chip's in the fob.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2022 | 04:16 PM
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Do the base xl keys have a PATS type transponder in them? Those were my favorite keys, still have the transponders so the car immobilizes without programmed keys, replacement blanks were 10 dollars a piece and once cut you can program new keys in under a minute.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2022 | 04:25 PM
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I carry my keys on a carabineer that I attach to a belt loop. I don't like having a lot of stuff in my pockets. Problem solved. I don't mind the bulk of the switchblade key/fob.

But after driving my F-150 for 15 years which had a separate fob and standard key, and now after a year of owning the new F-250 XLT, I still hold the switchblade fob in my hand while looking for my key. A freaking year and I still do that.

Old dog. New trick. Indeed.
 
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