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Old Aug 26, 2022 | 06:35 PM
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EEC (ECM) replacement compatibility

This is for a 1990 F250 manual trans, 5.0L 4x4.
I was driving the truck the other day, it was actually driving pretty well. Then all of a sudden at a stop light dash lights went out and the car died. Tried to restart and it would turn crank but not turn over.
Had it towed home and started to look into what the heck happened. After a lot of testing and head scratching, I decided it might be the EEC and the dreaded leaking capacitors. Opened it up and sure enough two were leaking, not bad enough to destroy the board.

So, on to my question. Yes I know I can just replace the capacitors, I have the skill to do that. But.....after looking to just replacing it with a remanufactured one, they are only about $100 from the big box stores. That is if you get the right one.
Here is the REAL question. The OEM part number is F0TF-12A650-T2A and the replacement ones are F0TF-12A650-TA. Does anyone know if that 2 in between the T and the A is a deal breaker?
The remanufactured ones with the 2 in the number are $360 and not from a big box stores. That price difference makes it were I'll just replace the capacitors, but sure would be nice to plug and play.

I know the EEC capacitor cause all kind of problems, but nothing consistent that I can find. If anyone has info that says "if this capacitor is bad, then...... " that would be great too.

Just looking for some feedback
 

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Old Aug 28, 2022 | 04:37 PM
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Old Aug 29, 2022 | 10:14 AM
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Welcome to FTE. Sorry you haven't gotten a customary response.

Post your calibration code from the door sticker & hopefully you'll get a firm ID as to what you need & what will work.



The computer per se wouldn't have anything to do with a complete shut down as described.

I'd be looking at power distribution & grounds.

My personal opinion is (worth what you're paying for it) keep the original ecu regardless of what you replace it with.

It can almost always be professionally repaired.

Other boxes will work, we just have no idea the changes from upgrade to upgrade.

Good luck & welcome again.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2022 | 02:19 PM
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My short box was built 10/93 also.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2022 | 02:52 PM
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That one is long gone to the crusher. Its computer & significant parts of the harness are on my shelf.

It built my first MAF conversion.

But I've got a red 94 too.

 
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[QUOTE=ablatnik;20533138]This is for a 1990 F250 manual trans, 4x4.


What motor do you have?

 
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Old Aug 29, 2022 | 04:09 PM
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F0TF-12A650-TA is available on Rock Auto for several engine types for $108.00 +shipping. Put your engine type in their search.
 
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Very nice.
 
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Thanks for responses. Let me update what we, my son and I, did. We look at power distribution and ground items.
We thought that something in the cylinder switch went out since we did not have any power going to the fuel pump in the run position and no power going to the accessories.
Also, there was no power going to the wipers or the power windows. We replaced the switch and still same problem.
We checked and fuel pump and eec relays and their corresponding connectors but had power going to both.
That's when we thought maybe the EEC.

We just got the capacitors to fix the EEC. I'll update when that gets done.

BTW it is a 5.0L.

 
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The actual switch is down the steering column, is this what you replaced or the key cylinder?
 
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You can jumper pins 2 & 6 on the diagnostic link under the hood then turn the key to the Run position to bypass the computer for energizing the fuel pump relay. If the fuel pump turns on then you can look at the computer as the cause.
If the fuel pump does not turn on then you have a power supply or ground issue for that circuit. The relay sockets on this vintage truck are known to grow green corrosion that cause all kinds of weird issues like yours.


Some info about hose test port pins from Subford:

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Old Aug 30, 2022 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ablatnik
We thought that something in the cylinder switch went out….
There is no “cylinder switch”. You have an ignition switch and a separate lock cylinder.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2022 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
There is no “cylinder switch”. You have an ignition switch and a separate lock cylinder.
Yes that is what I meant to say. We replaced the ignition switch that is controlled by a metal rod that runs down the steering column from the lock cylinder.
The PO installed a push button start switch on the dash. So the key has to be in run position to activate the button.
I have not looked at the wiring to the push button, since it has worked fine. I guess there could be some kind of grounding issue in that line.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2022 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rla2005
You can jumper pins 2 & 6 on the diagnostic link under the hood then turn the key to the Run position to bypass the computer for energizing the fuel pump relay. If the fuel pump turns on then you can look at the computer as the cause.
If the fuel pump does not turn on then you have a power supply or ground issue for that circuit. The relay sockets on this vintage truck are known to grow green corrosion that cause all kinds of weird issues like yours.


Some info about hose test port pins from Subford:



Great info. I'll get to that today and see what happens.
Thanks
 
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Old Aug 31, 2022 | 10:34 AM
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Yes replaced that switch.
 
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